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Constantly Confused's Cuestion of the Cweek

Inconsiderate parking - apoplexy or apathy?

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I've heard much tell recently of people parking in ways which are perfectly legal but in some way also perfectly idiotic or self centred, and recent personal experiences have mathed to this.

For example, I drove down a road this morning which is two lanes, but all the downhill lane is parked cars (with the ocassional gap for passing).  Then one clown parked on the uphill, basically stopping anyone from parking opposite them (for about 3 spaces due to having to weave) and narrowing the road to a very tight squeeze to get through.  There are no double yellows on either side, but there is clearly not enough space to park on both sides.  So perfectly legal, but idiotic.

I also hear that dawn sawth there is a trend for people to park on other's driveways which is apparently something you have to tolerate (the car is on private land so the police can't do anything, and the local council will acknowledge it is trespassing but also won't do anything about it).  While I haven't had that happen to me (as I have no drive!), I do experience a similar (though I admit considerably less intrusive) situation with people parking their cars in front of my house. 

My street is roughly set up so that each home could plonk a car in front of their house/on their drive.  There are then dead spaces where either the house is large with a corresponding off road parking spot (e.g. a house over 2 cars long with a driveway that holds 5 cars plus a double garage) or there isn't a house (such as a long patch of trees).  These are therefore spaces the nearest homeowner doesn't need or use as a matter of course.

I feel that one should park in the space before their house, then stick any extra cars in the dead spaces.  I even go so far as to leave my neighbour's spaces free if I can't fit my car in 'my' space due to people overlapping.

I think this is the polite and British way to do things.  But I appear to be alone and regularly find someone has parked their car so it is in front of two houses, often a long way (but less than a car length) from the next car.  This frustrates me and I find myself realising I don't mind parking in a dead space if someone uses 'mine', but I take severe umbrage to people using two spaces.  A few days ago I came home to find someone had parked about 3 quarters of a car from a shut-in down the street (whose car hasn't moved in weeks), meaning they were taking up two spaces, potentially 3.

Gosh that turned ranty... look it's not my street, not my space, no legal requirement yada yada yada.  But I often walk down streets where the cars are all spaced out like they are worried about Coronavirus and then there will be cars on grass verges and such and I just think, so many wasted spots...  And I can't help but feel attacked when someone on my street regularly parks outside my house instead of in one of the dead spaces (our street has never ever been 'full', and the furthest you would have to walk would be maybe 200m).

Ok, have at me...  I feel better for getting it out anyway (as the bishop said to the actress).

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By Richard Grant
14th Feb 2020 08:18

Maybe a flamethrower related solution could be found? Nothing to do with accountancy except maybe the R&D cost in developing it.

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By thevaliant
14th Feb 2020 08:45

Car parking has always been a bug bear of mine since I owned my own flat back in 2004.

During flat ownership, the communal car park was owned by the flats with enough space for each flat (but no more). Unfortunately the flats were next to a joinery yard and a motorbike workshop. Both considered it fair game to dump all their work vehicles in our car park.
We also had issues around some flats being tenanted. One tenant somehow had three cars. Dumped all three in the car park with a shrug that it was first come, first served.

After moving out, got a semi with a driveway! Hurrah! Unfortunately, its four doors down from a large primary school. If I'm not out the driveway by 8.30am, I'm NOT getting out the driveway until 9am as the school run mums believe it is perfectly okay to park across the drive (and likewise between about 2.45 and 3.30pm).
Also had people park in my drive.

There is no solution. As soon as you confront them, they just shrug and drive off (or often just shrug and walk off). They might not do it again, but there are 100 others who will, and a year later the next intake of children and their parents will just do the same again.

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By Tim Vane
14th Feb 2020 08:52

Luckily I have a life, so such things do not overly stress me.

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By Constantly Confused
14th Feb 2020 09:47

Tim Vane wrote:

Luckily I have a life, so such things do not overly stress me.

Sadly I have not been able to acquire a life, perhaps you could lend me part of yours?

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By atleastisoundknowledgable...
14th Feb 2020 09:00

We have quite a long car, so it takes about a 19 point-turn to get it on & off the drive each day, given that someone parks directly across from our drive and another person in what one could call our ‘living room spot’ ( so that we have zero visibility of oncoming travel until we are part way through the manoeuvre. )

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By Paul D Utherone
14th Feb 2020 09:05

At a previous office with private parking spaces at the rear we had a spate of totally unrelated people thinking it was OK to come in during weekdays and park up in our spaces. Took great delight in parking across the back of the rogue parkers so that they couldn't get out, and then being unavailable in a meeting when they wanted to go whilst watching their increasing frustration.

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By Roland195
14th Feb 2020 09:48

We have the same issue currently & adopt your approach - had the police out a few years ago mid January over it.

The cheek of it is staggering though - not a hint of contrition, more a bewildering sense of entitlement that it's some God given right to park where you choose. One lad even tried to claim he was legally entitled to park as there was no sign saying otherwise.

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By Constantly Confused
14th Feb 2020 10:42

Paul D Utherone wrote:

At a previous office with private parking spaces at the rear we had a spate of totally unrelated people thinking it was OK to come in during weekdays and park up in our spaces. Took great delight in parking across the back of the rogue parkers so that they couldn't get out, and then being unavailable in a meeting when they wanted to go whilst watching their increasing frustration.

See if I had people parking on my drive I'd make sure they couldn't get off again :)

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By killer33
14th Feb 2020 09:31

Sell your car ,travel by bicycle and public transport.

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By Constantly Confused
14th Feb 2020 09:48

killer33 wrote:

Sell your car ,travel by bicycle and public transport.

Ahh but as I previously intimated, I don't mind parking elsewhere, I do seem to be unable to not mind seeing inconsiderate parking.

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By killer33
14th Feb 2020 10:15

Inconsiderate parking is a bugbear of mine too. You aren't alone ;-).

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By meadowsaw227
14th Feb 2020 10:41

I leave cycling and public transport to the 4 P`s .

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By killer33
14th Feb 2020 10:53

4 P s Isn't that a marketing term? I'm confused .

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By alialdabawi
14th Feb 2020 09:46

The attached may be petty to some, fair game to others, and sheer entertainment for the rest

https://www.google.com/search?q=notes+for+bad+parking&source=lnms&tbm=is...

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By Constantly Confused
14th Feb 2020 10:41

alialdabawi wrote:

The attached may be petty to some, fair game to others, and sheer entertainment for the rest

https://www.google.com/search?q=notes+for+bad+parking&source=lnms&tbm=is...

Oh I do very much like the 'you're obviously trying to get as many spots as possible' one :)

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By bernard michael
14th Feb 2020 09:55

You're obviously bored now the SAR season has ended

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By Constantly Confused
14th Feb 2020 10:40

bernard michael wrote:

You're obviously bored now the SAR season has ended

SARs season ended years ago, it's Coronavirus season now!

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By bernard michael
14th Feb 2020 10:57

Constantly Confused wrote:

bernard michael wrote:

You're obviously bored now the SAR season has ended

SARs season ended years ago, it's Coronavirus season now!

Touche !!

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By Constantly Confused
14th Feb 2020 11:35

bernard michael wrote:

Constantly Confused wrote:

bernard michael wrote:

You're obviously bored now the SAR season has ended

SARs season ended years ago, it's Coronavirus season now!

Touche !!

:)

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By Justin Bryant
14th Feb 2020 10:56

If everyone drove small sensible cars rather than oversized 4x4s there would not be such a problem would there?

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By Constantly Confused
14th Feb 2020 11:35

Justin Bryant wrote:

If everyone drove small sensible cars rather than oversized 4x4s there would not be such a problem would there?

Depends where they parked :)

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By Justin Bryant
14th Feb 2020 13:45

But if they are small enough they can be easily moved (by a couple of blokes) can't they?

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By K81
14th Feb 2020 11:46

parking is emotive - I have a driveway & once a week, on the rubbish collection day, I pull my car into the road before work so that I can put the various rubbish/recycling/garden waste receptacles at the end of the drive - however, am I able to park in front of my house ? No I am not, but why not, everyone in the street has off street parking, where are these extra vehicles coming from, why are they infront of my house ?! Why does this bother me so ?

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By Paul D Utherone
14th Feb 2020 11:55

Don't get me started on the BS of trying to park at home, even with everyone having drives able to accommodate 2 or three cars. Still get the inconsiderate from over the road parking opposite & across my drive that, with the spread of cars from neighbours that seem to have substantially more than 3 cars / household spreading down the road, makes backing off my drive a trial a lot of the time

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By bernard michael
14th Feb 2020 12:01

K81 wrote:

parking is emotive - I have a driveway & once a week, on the rubbish collection day, I pull my car into the road before work so that I can put the various rubbish/recycling/garden waste receptacles at the end of the drive - however, am I able to park in front of my house ? No I am not, but why not, everyone in the street has off street parking, where are these extra vehicles coming from, why are they infront of my house ?! Why does this bother me so ?

Perhaps they put their receptacles out earlier than you - seemples

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By DJKL
14th Feb 2020 12:13

What you all need is car dollies, now that is not the young ladies who used to adorn the covers of motoring magazines, it is gizmos which slip under wheels and make your car really portable- I recently bought a set for work (we lease indoor storage space to owners for their treasured vehicles) ,something like this

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/223831656884

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By DJKL
14th Feb 2020 12:33

My bugbear is the bowling club in our street, I come home from work some nights and cannot find a space for love nor money. On my darker days I have considered objecting to their licence as I know they are abusing their Club licence hosting hire events/ parties for non members( Asda's staff Christmas Party, did you have my daughter signed in as a guest?) so forcing them to have to do a Traffic Impact Assessment and a Green Traffic Plan would hurt them in their pocket but in all honesty they would then run even more events to cover the extra costs so I would really be the loser.

It is going to get worse, Edinburgh are extending the permit zones which will mean all the cars that currently park in Leith will be heading for our street as the nearest unrestricted area .This will likely mean we all canvas the Council to let us also have a resident permit zone and eventually there will be nowhere for anyone to park except outside their own houses, which somewhat negates the need to have a car in the first place.

And where they do have meters it costs, just visited my bank in town this morning for a meeting, £6 for 1.5 hours.

City living is getting close to the point where not having a car is the best option. They are also banning my car from the city centre fairly soon, it is a diesel, I will have to get the Reliant on the road soon, albeit it is far less fuel efficient than the diesel , though getting in and out of it is becoming interesting as I age.

Frankly the best answer is sell up, leave the city, get something rural and sit in the garden all day.

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By bernard michael
14th Feb 2020 14:09

DJKL wrote:

My bugbear is the bowling club in our street, I come home from work some nights and cannot find a space for love nor money. On my darker days I have considered objecting to their licence as I know they are abusing their Club licence hosting hire events/ parties for non members( Asda's staff Christmas Party, did you have my daughter signed in as a guest?) so forcing them to have to do a Traffic Impact Assessment and a Green Traffic Plan would hurt them in their pocket but in all honesty they would then run even more events to cover the extra costs so I would really be the loser.

It is going to get worse, Edinburgh are extending the permit zones which will mean all the cars that currently park in Leith will be heading for our street as the nearest unrestricted area .This will likely mean we all canvas the Council to let us also have a resident permit zone and eventually there will be nowhere for anyone to park except outside their own houses, which somewhat negates the need to have a car in the first place.

And where they do have meters it costs, just visited my bank in town this morning for a meeting, £6 for 1.5 hours.

City living is getting close to the point where not having a car is the best option. They are also banning my car from the city centre fairly soon, it is a diesel, I will have to get the Reliant on the road soon, albeit it is far less fuel efficient than the diesel , though getting in and out of it is becoming interesting as I age.

Frankly the best answer is sell up, leave the city, get something rural and sit in the garden all day.

And your point is what ??

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By memyself-eye
14th Feb 2020 13:24

I own an MGB and therefore have access to trolley jacks, axle stands, ramps etc. I also have a supply of bricks and know how to remove (all 4) car wheels. No one parks on my drive.....

twice.

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By adam.arca
14th Feb 2020 13:24

OK, hope you all don't mind if we open this one up a bit.

Whilst agreeing with everything that's already been said, my additional pet driving hates include:

* arrogant tossers who make no attempt to park in a marked bay but simply strew their car at an angle across two spaces
* SUV drivers, who invariably seem incapable of the simple act of driving (unfortunately, most SUV drivers are women, so this appears to be a sexist point when it really isn't)
* not indicating at roundabouts; almost worse are the numpties who don't bother to indicate right when going round the roundabout but then indicate left when departing the roundabout and when every other unfortunate road user has already worked out where you're going
* drivers who hog the outer lane of motorways, obviously never use their rear view mirror and are completely oblivious to the queue building up behind them
* drivers who drive serenely down the middle lane of empty motorways, also ignoring the requirement (and common sense rule) to move over to the left where possible

Somebody's already mentioned schools. I couldn't agree more, having the misfortune to have two near to me. The junior school in particular is absolute chaos with mums not seeing a problem parking on double yellows, on corners, and yes across driveways, even in the school's own car park (which parents are banned from), anything to ensure their "precious Chloe" doesn't come into any contact with the real world or have her cotton wool surroundings removed for even a millisecond (but wtf do these mums then think happens in school?)

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By Constantly Confused
14th Feb 2020 14:22

adam.arca wrote:

OK, hope you all don't mind if we open this one up a bit.

Whilst agreeing with everything that's already been said, my additional pet driving hates include:

* arrogant tossers who make no attempt to park in a marked bay but simply strew their car at an angle across two spaces
* SUV drivers, who invariably seem incapable of the simple act of driving (unfortunately, most SUV drivers are women, so this appears to be a sexist point when it really isn't)
* not indicating at roundabouts; almost worse are the numpties who don't bother to indicate right when going round the roundabout but then indicate left when departing the roundabout and when every other unfortunate road user has already worked out where you're going
* drivers who hog the outer lane of motorways, obviously never use their rear view mirror and are completely oblivious to the queue building up behind them
* drivers who drive serenely down the middle lane of empty motorways, also ignoring the requirement (and common sense rule) to move over to the left where possible

Somebody's already mentioned schools. I couldn't agree more, having the misfortune to have two near to me. The junior school in particular is absolute chaos with mums not seeing a problem parking on double yellows, on corners, and yes across driveways, even in the school's own car park (which parents are banned from), anything to ensure their "precious Chloe" doesn't come into any contact with the real world or have her cotton wool surroundings removed for even a millisecond (but wtf do these mums then think happens in school?)

I mean, I agree with every point on your list...

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By AWeb72
16th Feb 2020 09:08

Also fog lights. So many people don't seem to know how to use them. You either get people far in the distance without them on, or have them on but leave them when you are close to them, blinding you.

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By Wilson Philips
16th Feb 2020 09:38

If you ever find yourself thinking that your job has no purpose, just remember that in a factory somewhere in Germany there is a worker fitting indicator stalks to BMWs.

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By whitevanman
16th Feb 2020 10:01

..when a hook for the handbag would be so much more useful?

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By memyself-eye
16th Feb 2020 11:13

True, my wife misses the choke handle.....

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By whitevanman
16th Feb 2020 13:33

Beware she doesn't read this and find the starting handle!

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By bernard michael
17th Feb 2020 10:21

Or worse only having one headlight that works. Generally the nearside one

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