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We have a client company that wants to provide bikes for those employees that want them and is thinking of making them e-bikes.  I know the supposed £1,000 cap is not in play but does the full salary sacrifice schem have to be operated for bikes to be provided tax free?  Is it possible for the employer to simply buy the bikes and provide them for the employees that want them, without having to go the salary sacrifice route?

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By The Dullard
15th Apr 2021 15:58

Yes. The "cycle to work" scheme is the brain child of the DoT, based on an exemption in the tax code for employers providing cycles to their employees that are used mainly for commuting.

You don't need to do the scheme, because the provision of a cycle (that is used mainly for commuting, honest guv) is an exempt benefit. That proposition is the mainstay of the "cycle to work" scheme.

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By The Dullard
15th Apr 2021 16:10

Better yet, just skip the wordy "cycle to work" scheme guidance and just read the legislation at ITEPA 2003, s 244 and s 249.

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By Hugo Fair
15th Apr 2021 17:37

And make sure that you've understood (and will comply with) all 3 conditions - in particular that "cycles are available generally to employees".

Subject to that, the answer to your question ("Is it possible for the employer to simply buy the bikes and provide them for the employees that want them, without having to go the salary sacrifice route?") is of course, Yes.

However, please be aware (as always) that there may be related questions you could have asked - such as "What will we lose by not going the salary sacrifice route?" To which the (probably obvious) answer is the reduction in employee salaries plus the lack of the resultant reduction in ER NICs.

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By Carole Baldwin
15th Apr 2021 19:17

No, no, no. Talk him out of it. Lie, make something up, tell him it will cause him to be covered in warts, anything.
The last thing proper road users need is yet more clowns wobbling along on bicycles with or without puny electric motors. They are a total pain and a hazard to motorcyclists and drivers (I'm both).
Anything that cannot reach 120mph should be banned from the roads and in my view current speed limits should be minimum speed not maximum.

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By Ruddles
15th Apr 2021 19:32

You really do spout a lot of drivel. Your ‘gender change’ is fooling no-one.

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By Carole Baldwin
15th Apr 2021 22:48

Could you explain your rather peculiar comment? I have never changed gender, nor would I want to change to the inferior male of the species.

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By Ruddles
15th Apr 2021 22:52

Nice try, David (or is it Davina now?) Goodbye

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By stepurhan
15th Apr 2021 19:34

Your continuing lack of concern for anyone that is not you is a wonder to behold.

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By Carole Baldwin
15th Apr 2021 22:46

Look at the statistics for accidents caused by cyclists. When taken as a percentage of the number of cyclists vs the number of other road users they are, by a long way, the most dangerous road users.

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By paul.benny
16th Apr 2021 07:18

Could you please point me to these statistics?

The Department of Transport data linked below analyses fatalities and casualties by road user type, by age, by class of road. But it doesn't identify *causes* of collisions.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploa...

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By stepurhan
16th Apr 2021 09:31

Carole Baldwin wrote:

Look at the statistics for accidents caused by cyclists. When taken as a percentage of the number of cyclists vs the number of other road users they are, by a long way, the most dangerous road users.


To know I am looking at the same statistics as you, I would need a link. Otherwise we could be talking about entirely different figures.

If not included in those figures, please also include where you are getting what percentage of road users are cyclists.

Because my past experience of people telling me to "look at the statistics" without providing links is that their views aren't based on any statistics. In fact I even had one case where someone dropped a link (after repeated requests) that proved the opposite of what they were saying.

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By stepurhan
16th Apr 2021 09:32

Carole Baldwin wrote:
Anything that cannot reach 120mph should be banned from the roads and in my view current speed limits should be minimum speed not maximum.

While you are looking out those statistics, can you make sure they include deaths from travelling at high speeds, which you seem very much in favour of.
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By The Dullard
16th Apr 2021 09:41

Travelling at high speeds doesn't kill people. It's the stopping suddenly that kills people.

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By Wilson Philips
16th Apr 2021 10:31

Or not stopping (or not being able to stop in time), depending on who the victim is. So excessive speed is a contributory factor in certain deaths.

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By stepurhan
16th Apr 2021 12:01

Falls from great heights are similarly safe up to the last moment.

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By Hugo Fair
16th Apr 2021 15:36

Like the old one about "It's not flying that's dangerous, it's ceasing to do so that often kills".

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By Carole Baldwin
16th Apr 2021 19:44

Why do I get a mental picture of you in the outside lane of the motorway in a Morris Minor with your nose pressed against the windscreen and white knuckles as you cling to the steering wheel at 20 miles an hour with an 18 mile traffic jam behind you?

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By Ruddles
16th Apr 2021 19:53

Simple. We know what an overactive imagination you have.

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