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Edit function - new feature.

AWEB have updated the edit function.

Didn't find your answer?

Here’s an early present, from AWEB to you - Merry Christmas!

After hearing your feedback about the forum, we have been working on a new edit function which is finally ready to roll out across the site.

This new feature will limit the time available to edit questions/comments - 30 minutes after the time of posting something, there will no longer be an option to edit.

We hope this edit feature will help with certain issues that have been raised by members of the community.

We welcome any further feedback you might have about this update.

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By Tax Dragon
15th Dec 2020 10:57

Cool. Thanks Aweb.

After this post, no replies from me within 30 minutes to any post by Anon, Noob, serial editors or others of the ilk.

(Edit... just checking I can! Liking the yellow banner. And to say I was not categorising you as one of the above.)

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By Paul Crowley
15th Dec 2020 11:07

Does that mean anon questions?
If so then Anon can never reply to question ( by amending )
Best also change spellcheck to UK
Most of my edits are spelling

If only applies to ordinary responses then not really helpful

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By Tax Dragon
15th Dec 2020 11:33

But answering by amending doesn't work, because the respondent questioner often doesn't know the question has been answered...

And I'm sure in genuine cases there are workarounds. This sorts (or Sifts, if you will) the genuine cases from the rest.

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By Mr_awol
15th Dec 2020 11:35

Paul Crowley wrote:

Does that mean anon questions?
If so then Anon can never reply to question ( by amending )
Best also change spellcheck to UK
Most of my edits are spelling

If only applies to ordinary responses then not really helpful

I'd suggest it is hugely helpful as it prevents dotting (unless the OP gets their freeloading answer, or the brush off, very quickly)

Yes it prevents the editing of threads where anonymity is genuinely required - but how often does that happen, really? I think I've seen as handful of genuinely 'worthy' anonymous threads at most in all the years i have been on Aweb. If there is a genuine need for an anonymous thread i am sure the UP can flag it to admin to provide updates via POM etc (the admin know who posted it anyway so this wouldn't break anonymity).

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By Wilson Philips
15th Dec 2020 11:58

Most people that are posting anonymously for a genuine reason are, I suggest, already members of this site. They should therefore already understand the frustration of would-be respondents trying to answer questions where only half of the relevant facts have been given. This will hopefully dissuade such posters from diving in with a half-baked question and instead carefully consider whether they have provided all relevant information before hitting 'post'.

Another unintended benefit might be that it might encourage respondents to answer the question actually asked.

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By Tax Dragon
15th Dec 2020 12:26

Well, again, in my case I won't if I think it's more helpful (to the OP) not to answer the question actually asked. A recent example - couple of weeks back - of this (where a perfectly 'good' (per se) question was asked, but it wasn't necessarily the 'right one') was that son-in-law that wanted to know about an inherited property's base cost. [There have probably been more recent ones but I don't bother looking at as many questions as I used to.]

It's not unlikely that the correct answer to the question asked would have resulted in an incorrect tax outcome. (I did respond, but not with an answer to the question.)

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By The Dullard
15th Dec 2020 12:00

Paul Crowley wrote:

Best also change spellcheck to UK
Most of my edits are spelling

AWeb don't provide the spell checker. YOUR browser does. YOU need to change the settings!

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John Stokdyk, AccountingWEB head of insight
By John Stokdyk
15th Dec 2020 15:27

We haven't blocked access to your posts forever. There is a backstop built into the system. If you find a factual error or embarrassing spelling mistake that you would like to amend, you can do so by reporting the post and choosing the new " Request for additional amends" option.

It'll increase the moderating workload and may not happen instantly, but should be something we can fit into our normal routine.

It is a longstanding request, I admit, but we are one site among many operated by our parent company so there is a process that we have to work through. The timeout is our first implementation at this point, so if there are bugs or improvements you can think of, we've got something our tech team can now refine.

We've got quite a few other user improvements on the To Do file and will continue to lobby the development team to find the time to work on them.

Best wishes for a less frustrating time on Any Answers in 2021!

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By carnmores
15th Dec 2020 19:57

Thanks John a happy Christmas to you all. Many are called few are chosen..

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By Arthur Putey
15th Dec 2020 11:23

Tallula Brogan wrote:

Here’s an early present, from AWEB to you - Merry Christmas!

Aw, you shouldn't have .... I feel bad now, I haven't got you anything

[EDIT to correct typo!]

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By Cheshire
15th Dec 2020 11:55

More of a very very very late 2015 Christmas pressie.

Now will folk remember not to respond for 30 minutes to newbies, flakes, anons.

Its a start.

Now just need the other good suggestions to be implemented. Eg the one that tells you, very obviously, when a new response has been added would be useful.

Cannot understand why such things take so long to be dealt with on live websites. As frustrating as checking out those businesses who cannot be arsed updating their opening hours.

Edited to correct a typo!!

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By Cheshire
15th Dec 2020 11:57

OOO, the poster gets a warning eg You have until 2020-12-15 12:23 to edit this comment.

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By tom123
15th Dec 2020 12:04

Many thanks!

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By Duggimon
15th Dec 2020 12:07

Credit where it's due, this has been asked for by many posters for a long time now and I for one appreciate that it's been implemented. Thanks AWeb.

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By DJKL
15th Dec 2020 12:24

I concur though my English will now likely go downhill as I do currently spot a fair few of my spelling mistakes and missed commas etc more than half an hour after first posting.

The theory that when writing important letters, where every word and phrase needs considered, drafting, putting down and then leaving alone for a while often detects issues within the first draft ,which were missed on the first review, will likely hold good.

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By Duggimon
15th Dec 2020 12:31

I get round these issues by dictating all my posts to my secretary and having them print a copy for me to proof read before posting.

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By carnmores
15th Dec 2020 12:42

WHAT.....

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By Duggimon
15th Dec 2020 13:17

carnmores wrote:

WHAT.....

Of course, since I've been working from home for a while now, I've had to amend this practice and now scribble down my posts on notepaper and post them to my secretary to type up.

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By carnmores
15th Dec 2020 14:02

actually i have some sympathy with you , what i do now for longer correspondence is dictate into Word , easy peasy

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By DJKL
15th Dec 2020 12:49

A long time ago, in a Galaxy Far, Far Away,
I had a secretary (well a shared secretary, to be precise) who could type at a ridiculously fast rate of knots and answered the phones, these days it would be somewhat hard to justify.

My work colleague still has one , he is a surveyor and writes a lot so does his tapes in the evening, leaves them in his office first thing and then gets out and about in his car whilst they all get typed up ready for him to approve the drafts on his return.

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By Duggimon
15th Dec 2020 13:21

We have two-ish secretaries in the office but I can't do dictating at all really, I've never been able to get my head round it. I have to write letters out in order to decide if I'm saying what I want to say, and since I can type faster than I can write by hand that means typing it up.

It's a short hop from there to just using the secretarial software myself and doing my own letters, which is what I do 99 times out of 100, my partners all still dictate letters though so nobody's facing redundancy.

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By Justin Bryant
15th Dec 2020 13:07

How is limiting existing functionality a present (or otherwise a good idea )? I don't really give a monkey's if someone wants to edit their year old post (and there may be good reasons for them to do so). Why would anyone give a monkey's about that? It's their post/comment. Also, it's hardly a "new feature" to limit an exiting feature is it (as you could then equally say it's a new feature to remove all editing ability entirely)?

If it's a stupid/annoying post in the 1st place surely these people complaining (or more often than not trolling) should just ignore it?

A better present would be to ban the resident trolls, so that this is a nice place only for nice people (or perhaps ban people who make these kind of dumb suggestions - they're mostly the same unpleasant trolling people).

Most importantly, sometimes I make a great one liner here and then, an hour later, I have an "on the staircase" moment and have to refine it to an even funnier one liner, so this website will now be deprived of my (apparent) even greater wit from now on

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By carnmores
15th Dec 2020 12:43

agreed

come back in 30 mins to see if i've changed my mind

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By I'msorryIhaven'taclue
15th Dec 2020 13:25

carnmores wrote:

come back in half an hour to see if i've changed my mind


Time's up!
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By Paul Crowley
15th Dec 2020 13:09

Trouble is I do not know if I am a Troll or just a mere muppet

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By Duggimon
15th Dec 2020 13:15

There are a number of posts out there on this site which have asked perfectly good questions, had a number of useful responses and then, the OP having gotten the help they need, they have edited their post to remove all information, removing any context for the otherwise useful discussion rendering the whole thing pointless.

It is intensely annoying and is the main reason people have asked that the ability to do this be curtailed.

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By Justin Bryant
15th Dec 2020 13:18

But as you know there is the obvious current simple fix to that that is commonly adopted.

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By Paul Crowley
15th Dec 2020 13:19

Justin Bryant wrote:

But as you know there is the obvious current simple fix to that that is commonly adopted.

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By Duggimon
15th Dec 2020 13:24

Which is in itself annoying, and is reliant on other posters having the foresight to copy/paste, or having the original thread cached in their browser to copy/paste from.

I'm not sure your jokes, fine though they undoubtedly are, present a compelling argument against the new feature. And yes, it is a feature, despite your protestations to the contrary. Editing is still there, there's no loss of functionality, just a restriction to prevent abuse.

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By Justin Bryant
15th Dec 2020 13:34

I'm saying it's wrong (disingenuous) to dress this (editing restriction) up as a "new" feature. I would expect that kind of nonsense spin (insulting my intelligence basically) from a politician. A normal business would not last long peddling new restrictions on customer freedoms as a new positive thing to be celebrated.

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By DJKL
15th Dec 2020 14:40

What do you pay to use Accounting Web?

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By Wilson Philips
15th Dec 2020 13:59

Someone here has an annoying habit of repeatedly editing their posts, usually after a number of people have answered them, often changing the sense/message and thus resulting in those subsequent answers looking out of place. Hopefully the 'new' functionality (which is used in forums all over the place, so is hardly an unexpected 'restriction on freedom') will put a stop to that. But I can understand why that person may object to the improvement.

If there is such an interesting reason to amend a year-old post, surely that merits an entirely new post/thread.

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By carnmores
15th Dec 2020 14:07

there is a wonderful simple clarity in your answer, well put.

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By Paul Crowley
15th Dec 2020 13:23

So
An unintended outing is now out for ever?

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Tallula Brogan
By Tallula Brogan
15th Dec 2020 13:34

Moderators of the site will still be able to edit posts and comments if the situation calls for it.

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By carnmores
15th Dec 2020 14:03

and even if it doesn't ;-)

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By carnmores
15th Dec 2020 14:04

as a rule you intervene when you shouldn't and don't when you should

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By Paul Crowley
15th Dec 2020 16:22

Because the cherished OP is the one to complain.

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By legerman
15th Dec 2020 14:08

Great news, and not before time

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By Tax Dragon
15th Dec 2020 14:31

There's a slight irony in that I feel I should now undot (and uncloak the Anon of) https://www.accountingweb.co.uk/any-answers-144?page=1 but can't.

Incidentally, the banner there reads:
"This post is now locked for editing. If you require any further edits, please use the 'Report' link below to request for any further amends."*

So, Justin, you can always report that your joke wasn't funny enough, here is a wittier one. [More generally, and as I and Mr_Anon said, in genuine cases, amendments will still be able to be made.]

* Edit [I've discovered I like editing! :-)] - what dreadful English.**
**Edit 2: and that's coming from me!
Edit 3: new game for Christmas... most edits to a post inside half an hour***
***Edit 4: bored of it already.

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Lone Wolf
By Lone_Wolf
15th Dec 2020 18:09

Why
Edit 1: would
Edit 2: you
Edit 3: give
Edit 4: up
Edit 5: so
Edit 6: easily?

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By Tax Dragon
15th Dec 2020 18:48

Because
Edit 1: I'd
Edit 2: probably
Edit 3: get
Edit 4: timed
Edit 5: out
Edit 6: before
Edit 7: I
Edit 8: reached
Edit 9: the
Edit 10: end
Edit 11: of
Edit 12: the

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By Tax Dragon
15th Dec 2020 18:52

Tax Dragon wrote:

There's a slight irony in that...

I'm also too late to edit "century" to "year" in the latest "I'm off" thread.

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By Wilson Philips
17th Dec 2020 12:47

I (think) I've found a solution to Justin's concerns. All he needs to do is re-visit all of his comments every 29 minutes and make a small adjustment. This seems to reset the 30-minute countdown, thus keeping them all alive for amendments 12 months later.

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By Justin Bryant
17th Dec 2020 13:47

Please can this stupid, inconvenient and highly annoying edit block thing be removed? Otherwise I for one will certainly be contributing a lot less here in future (cue trolling muppets with predictable "well let's definitely keep it in that case" type comments).

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By I'msorryIhaven'taclue
17th Dec 2020 14:14

It'd be interesting to hear your thoughts as to whether a disclaimer on members' posts might be a good idea; given that Joe Public is able to wander in for advice.

Penny forum.

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