Hello Vat registered limited company client wants something big with lots of seats to use for business "and possibly pleasure" , they were looking at the ford torneo - but looking at the spec sheet it looks like they are all cars - makes sense if its designed primarily to carry passengers and isn't cannily designed to qualify as a van.
https://www.ford.co.uk/content/dam/guxeu/uk/documents/price-list/cars/PL...
does anyone know of similar vehicles that would pass the van test for both vat and tax purposes? - i think the client had their heart set on it having 8 seats just to add to the complications.
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Thanks for taking the post seriously.
No - you might be better looking for something that qualifies as a bus.
Yes - all of them. But only if the vehicle has five reverse gears and is solely and constantly patronised only by Italians
Ford Tourneo shuttle bus is 8 seater
ford tourneo grand connect is 7 seater, believe classed as MPV
Ford has good guide on their website for company tax on all their models. So you can check for yourself if choice would be for the client
https://www.ford.co.uk/shop/specialist-sales/fleet/drivers/company-car-t...
That Ford Tourneo shuttle bus jobbie sounds like a possibility . . . . . I wonder does it fully satisfy the OP's requirements with regards to VAT and Tax?
C.
Emailed to a client this am.....
Hello
I have looked on google and I cannot find a list of which vehicles are vans and which are cars
The rules say:
For both VAT and income tax purposes, HM Revenue & Customs (HMRC) rely on the definition of a vehicle included in the Value Added Tax (Cars) Order 1992: A motor car is:
• a motor vehicle of a kind normally used on public roads which has three or more wheels and either:
• is constructed or adapted solely or mainly for the carriage of passengers; or
• has to the rear of the driver’s seat roofed accommodation which is fitted with side windows or which is constructed or adapted for the fitting of side windows.
Thus for a vehicle to be classed as a van it must have a purpose other than for carrying passengers. It should therefore have a significant load bay to carry goods such that the carrying of passengers can no longer be the main purpose. A car boot will not count.
And that load bay must not have windows either, so the cavernous rear of Lovejoy’s Volvo Estate, with the seats permanently folded down and habitually filled to the roof-lining with antiques, would not be enough to make it a van, even if the rear seats were removed.
In short, it is not the actual use of the vehicle, but the purpose for which it was constructed and sold that matters.
This article at the link below says the VW is a car…. And the Ford looks like it.
So my guess is that it is a car and you would pay tax on it…. But I do not know for certain.
https://www.businessvans.co.uk/van-tax/crew-van-tax-is-it-treated-as-a-c...
Anyone know where the HMRC list is?
I saw the old one but....
Ford Transit Custom TDCi 125 L1H1 SWB 290 Trend 2.2
Not sure that fella was even invented when they made that list....
looks like the VW to me