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Furlough for Directors on annual scheme

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Sorry for yet another furlough question.

In the guidance I read today, people previously not eligible from furlough can now be eligible if they have been on an RTI between 20th March 2020 and 30 October 2020.   

At first blush, this would seem to include people on an annual scheme reported on 31 March 2020.  

Could we in theory average their hours and now claim?  Or would they be excluded because their usual payroll period (i.e. 31 March each year) not have happened yet, so wouldn't yet be included in a payroll that can be furloughed?

I've read the updated guidance, and to be frank, I glazed over.   I'm getting tired of this rubbish.

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By JHC
11th Nov 2020 23:17

I've come across this too. We had some annual directors payrolls that were filed before 19th March and some that weren't. The ones that weren't, we are using their annual.salary paid March/12 as the reference salary.

The guidance says to use the pay period ending on or before 30th October, so September in most cases, but as they were paid annually, we are using the last time they were paid, March . May not be strictly correct but not sure what else we can do. Likewise I'm tired of it all!

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By Paul Crowley
11th Nov 2020 23:43

https://www.accountingweb.co.uk/any-answers/furlough-for-an-annual-paye-...

Says it all
Searched 'Annual' on any answers search

Not top right of page which is entire site

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By Wanderer
12th Nov 2020 08:21

michaelbeaver wrote:

.......... so wouldn't yet be included in a payroll that can be furloughed?

YOYOYOY has anyone left any of their directors who CJRS could have possibly been applied to, on an annual scheme?
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By michaelbeaver
12th Nov 2020 09:04

We gave all our annual clients the option to switch to monthly payroll, but as we charge for monthly payroll and don't for annual payroll virtually all of them stuck with annual, thinking that the scheme would only be running for a few months anyway.

Most of our clients are working again so this isn't such a huge deal, but there will be a few for whom this would be useful. I just want to make sure of my position before I go to those few and say 'let's try claiming furlough for you'.

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By Paul Crowley
12th Nov 2020 09:19

They made the choice, their problem

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By meadowsaw227
12th Nov 2020 10:12

I still do not know the benefit of the annual scheme for directors.
It is so quick and easy to do monthly RTI filings (it takes seconds) that I can not understand why you would not do them ? .
It can not be down to fess surely .

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By Newacct06
12th Nov 2020 11:12

There are many reasons why an owner managed business may choose to continue to stay on the annual paye scheme.

I don’t think there is need to submit retrospective RTIs. When the time come, I would suggest to claim based on a twelfth of the annual salary. You can always top up the salary

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