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Furloughed workers wages submission

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I do payroll for a couple of sole traders and they have had to Furlough their staff.  All of the staff are paid weekly, do I still do the weekly RTI submissions until HMRC have set their portal up and if so should the submissions just be for 80% of their wage?

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By Wanderer
31st Mar 2020 16:30

Yes you still do FPS submissions.
80% or 100% isn't relevant, it's for whatever they've been paid.

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By sallyrichardson
01st Apr 2020 10:08

They should have written to their staff telling them that they are furloughed, and at what rate - 80% or 100%. You put whatever has been agreed through the payroll, using the amounts you will be able to reclaim, based on the rules published by the HMRC. You then just put through the reclaim when the portal is open. You are not allowed to pay them less than you reclaim. You shouldn't put more through the payroll than they will be paid.

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By tom123
01st Apr 2020 11:06

Would 80% of the usual weekly pay come in at less than £2500 if you had five paydays in the month?

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By ann12
01st Apr 2020 12:21

I can't seem to find anywhere that tells me whether holidays accrue while employees are furloughed. It says they have the same rights with regards to SSP/SMP etc., - do we assume that includes holiday accrual?

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By ann12
01st Apr 2020 12:21

I can't seem to find anywhere that tells me whether holidays accrue while employees are furloughed. It says they have the same rights with regards to SSP/SMP etc., - do we assume that includes holiday accrual?

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By RedFive
01st Apr 2020 12:38

Holidays accrue and can't be taken while furloughed. A recent update highlighted this. Good for employees > Bad for businesses

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By ry4n
01st Apr 2020 13:34

RedFive wrote:

A recent update highlighted this.

Do you have a link to this RedFive? Have been getting differing answers form HMRC employer helpline on whether employees can take (and be paid) holiday during furlough.

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By RedFive
01st Apr 2020 13:47

Hi, it was the announcement by Secretary of State Alok Sharma at the 5pm briefing on 28th March.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AK4MgS3308

From 3:45 onwards re holidays not taken carrried forward into next two years.

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By ann12
01st Apr 2020 13:44

I had read that the employees can take paid holiday during the period if they so wish but there is some grey area over the fact they are unable to go out. I read a forum, sorry cannot remember where, that said as long as they ask to be paid their holiday, or use the holiday to top up the missing 20%, they can do so. They cannot be forced to take holidays during this time but at choice they can.

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By RedFive
01st Apr 2020 13:50

Secretary of State Alok Sharma at the 5pm briefing on 28th March.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AK4MgS3308

From 3:45 onwards re holidays not taken carrried forward into next two years.

And in answer to OP I concur with previous replies you put the 80% figure as the gross pay then calculate net as normal, claiming the gross figure back + Employers NI and Employers Pension if applicable.

Or if paying employees normal pay then process as normal, but can still only claim 80% of gross (worked out re clearly laid out rules)

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By ann12
01st Apr 2020 14:03

I agree with regards to the holidays being carried over however, this is not the issue. The first issue raised was 'is holiday accrued while an employee was furloughed'.

With regards to taking holiday while an employee was furloughed, I would refer to the ACAS website, link below.

https://www.acas.org.uk/coronavirus/using-holiday

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