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General Election - keeping a campaign account

Advice on keeping a campaign account for a candidate in the General Election 2019

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I have volunteered to do the campaign account for the Brexit Party candidate in our constituency. I am reading the Electoral Commission guidance and advice from the party head office but if there is anyone here who has actually kept accounts for candidates in previous parliamentary elections I would be grateful for any tips.

I would very much appreciate it if any responses could relate to the keeping of accounts for a parliamentary candidate and not be political. Thankyou.

Michael

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Lone Wolf
By Lone_Wolf
08th Nov 2019 14:06

C.Y.Nical wrote:

I would very much appreciate it if any responses could relate to the keeping of accounts for a parliamentary candidate and not be political.


Me thinks you may be hoping for too much. Incoming in 3...2...1...
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Hallerud at Easter
By DJKL
08th Nov 2019 14:55

Given the amount of scandal etc that appears to surround funding and the rules re same I think I would want some very clear guidance re who is responsible for what, in writing.

So analysis of the debits and credits is fine but I think there needs to be someone appointed who is accountable under electoral law and I would not want that to be me, so you need to be certain someone else decides what a fund receipt is and how it ought to be treated and whether appropriate checks re receiving it have been done and similarly someone else saying under what head an expenses goes, is it a local constituency expense etc or national etc.

It seems to be a niche subject.

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By Moonbeam
08th Nov 2019 15:07

Surely the responsible person in law is the election agent for the party concerned. However, presumably you'd want the agent to check your allocations and correct if necessary given the sensitivty.

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Hallerud at Easter
By DJKL
08th Nov 2019 15:14

Yep- I would want a control system so tight with him/her scribbling on vouchers what they were, were they authorised to receive a sum, have they checked ABC was eligible to donate etc, all signed off by A N Other.

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RLI
By lionofludesch
08th Nov 2019 14:57

General election AND Brexit in the same breath ?

It's a perfect storm.

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By ireallyshouldknowthisbut
08th Nov 2019 15:11

I think you just make it up.

And then lie through your teeth to the electoral commision.

Your man Nigel is a past master. As of course, for balance are the Blue team. And probably the red team. Yellows and greens probably too busy with their sandals.

#electoral neutrality.

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Hallerud at Easter
By DJKL
08th Nov 2019 15:17

Its what funds they used to buy the sandals that tends to be the issue. I would take lessons from The Donald, he just got hit with a judgement.

I wonder if electoral campaigns are allowed significant pizza purchases, all sitting around in the constituency bases tabulating the ground troop returns etc

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By ireallyshouldknowthisbut
08th Nov 2019 15:36

I wondering if the Brexit party get a big gammon budget, or if that is considered cannibalism?

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By C.Y.Nical
08th Nov 2019 16:03

Thanks for the replies (well most of them anyway).
I was asked to be the constituency agent but I declined the invitation. The candidate is acting as his own agent. I am just doing the accounts.
Even though I am an unpaid volunteer I have written a terms of engagement letter for the candidate to sign which I am confident will protect me provided I record everything according to generally accepted principles. I am setting him up with a dedicated bank account and an Imprest petty cash system, I have told him to use debit card for the bank account only, no credit cards and no deferred payments for anything. The account will be kept in a dropbox folder and I will make him acknowledge he has seen and approved it once a week. I'm doing all I can to make it all transparent and above-board.
I just wondered if there are any special features of election accounts which someone may have picked up from experience rather than the guidance.
Thanks again.

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By johnhemming
08th Nov 2019 17:18

Read the guidance on the electoral commission website. Be very careful to check donations for admissibility. The electoral commission website explains that. I checked the labour party returns for much of birmingham for 2017 and their campaigns were entirely notional spend which I think is a bit naughty. It is quite complex doing this, however.

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RLI
By lionofludesch
08th Nov 2019 16:21

Will you be standing, John ?

UK politics needs a bit of colour .....

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By johnhemming
08th Nov 2019 17:17

I am not standing.

I have done a public statement as to why.

http://johnhemming.blogspot.com/2019/11/statement-re-false-allegations-c...

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RLI
By lionofludesch
08th Nov 2019 18:49

I'm not standing either but this is as near to a public statement as you'll get.

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By johnhemming
08th Nov 2019 21:25

I was, however, a candidate in 1983,87,92,97,2001,5,10,15 and 17 so not standing is a change.

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RLI
By lionofludesch
08th Nov 2019 22:02

You're well out of it.

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Hallerud at Easter
By DJKL
09th Nov 2019 14:17

You may become the equivalent of the recent ex player now manager standing on the touchline kicking every ball in his head and believing he could improve the team on the field if he was just out there rather than the donkeys that have recently been signed; accordingly to wean yourself away maybe a cruise over the last few critical weeks of the election campaign is the way to go.

( I have this syndrome when my son drives me anywhere, I just stop talking and shut my eyes)

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By C.Y.Nical
14th Nov 2019 16:32

Thanks again for the helpful replies.

"My" candidate was going to stand in a Conservative seat and therefore the Brexit Party refuses to put his nomination forward. He has decided not to stand as an indpendent so I shall not be asked to do anything after all.

In any event it was becoming apparent that all contributions, whether to the Party or for individual candidates, must be credited to the Brexit Party Ltd., and all campaign expenses will be paid by that company, so there might not have been anything for me to do anyway apart from scrutinise whatever information might have been made available to me so that I could reassure the candidate that he was complying with the rules regarding election donations and expenses.

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