Hmrc response

What to do

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I keep contacting Hmrc about different aspects of Mtd . I have also dergisterd a number of clients . I am getting no replies whatsoever   If Hmrc were a business I would be threatening court action so what do I do as one problem leads to another . The more I inform clients of what needs to be done on average the less they seem bothered due to the complex nature of what appears to be needed . Any answers might help if they are positive . 

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By lionofludesch
17th Apr 2019 10:01

Possibly be a bit more positive in your outlook ?

I'm not a big MTD fan but HMRC have refused to see sense.

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By GHarr497688
17th Apr 2019 10:57

lol I am very positive but today when dealing with a vat registered client and being faced with one problem after the other and getting zero feed back from Hmrc it’s draining me of the will to live . I suppose when we have the elections the government might realise how hard they make it .

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By lionofludesch
17th Apr 2019 12:01

I'm not seeing the correlation between .....

GHarr497688 wrote:

I am very positive ....

and

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.... it’s draining me of the will to live .
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By nodrogbir
17th Apr 2019 12:49

yes it is draining me of the will to live ( at times) BUT I have to remain positive. You can read the post in anyway you want but sarcasm isn't my favourite past time lol .

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By John Stone
17th Apr 2019 14:13

I agree with you. MTD4VAT is literally a waste of space. And I mean literally. An awful lot of effort with no payback for clients or for HMRC for that matter.

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By Tornado
17th Apr 2019 10:07

I would perhaps ... no definitely, send emails of complaint to your MP, Mel Stride, Jon Thompson, Theresa May, Philip Hammond, and anyone else who may have any influence over the situation.

I have done this a number of times in the past and although you do tend to get stock answers, it is relatively easy to do by email. Perhaps one email copied to all the others. You can find the official email addresses of these people fairly easily with web searches.

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By GHarr497688
17th Apr 2019 10:59

Good advice far more positive than those who just say get on with it . Hmrc not replying is exactly why I can’t get on with it .

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By Glenn Martin
17th Apr 2019 16:35

Sending letters to Teresa May and Phil Hammond has got to be the biggest waste of time I have ever heard of.

1. Do you actually expect them to respond to you?
2. If they did respond do you think they would take on
board anything you say?

I think they both have bigger fish to fry currently.

I will look out for the headline though, grumpy accountant brings down government with a stiff letter of MTD.

Surely your time is best off supporting your clients than writing letters that will do no where.

MTD for vat is just something we need to deal and is no dig deal unless you make it one, what is far greater issue is that the 01.04.2020 start date for accounts filing is still in place. Start lobbying that deadline to kick it down the road as there is a greater argument that that business will not be ready for that.

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By Tornado
17th Apr 2019 17:45

Perhaps you are right.

A far better way to gain publicity would to glue my backside to Theresa May's car, or something wild like that. That would make them think.

Good idea.

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By GHarr497688
17th Apr 2019 18:38

Yes I did get a very helpful reply and have been thanked for my input . If no one speaks out nothing every changes.

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By Wanderer
17th Apr 2019 19:20

Glennzy wrote:

what is far greater issue is that the 01.04.2020 start date for accounts filing is still in place.

Already been kicked to 2021 at the earliest by the spring statement.
Spreadsheet Phil wrote:
Making Tax Digital (MTD) – Mandatory digital record keeping for VAT for businesses over the VAT
threshold (with turnover over £85,000) comes into force from 1 April. This is an important first step in
this modernisation of the tax system to which the government remains committed. The government can
confirm a light touch approach to penalties in the first year of implementation. Where businesses are
doing their best to comply, no filing or record keeping penalties will be issued. The focus will be on
supporting businesses to transition and the government will therefore not be mandating MTD for any
new taxes or businesses in 2020.
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By Duggimon
17th Apr 2019 11:19

Did you deregister your clients in response to MTD?

Because that makes no sense at all. Much like every single one of your rambling, scaremongering, obscenely negative and pointless posts on the subject.

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By lionofludesch
17th Apr 2019 11:45

Duggimon wrote:

Did you deregister your clients in response to MTD?

Because that makes no sense at all.

No. It doesn't.

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By nodrogbir
17th Apr 2019 12:57

The client has requested deregistration , it's not for me to decide that for them !!!! Is it ?

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By lionofludesch
17th Apr 2019 13:39

The point duggimon was making is that, if the client can deregister, MTD isn't one of his problems.

Yet.

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By nodrogbir
17th Apr 2019 15:26

I was trying to say that HMRC are not responding in the usual manner toi a host of VAT queries either related to MTD or not and that this lack of response is making the whole process complicated as it means time and effort is going into chasing HMRC up rather than getting on with the job of getting MTD ready.

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By legerman
18th Apr 2019 16:52

nodrogbir wrote:

The client has requested deregistration , it's not for me to decide that for them !!!! Is it ?

Deleted: Forgot the issue isn't MTD related.

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By legerman
18th Apr 2019 16:53

Duplicated

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By Tornado
17th Apr 2019 11:58

With respect to those that have replied, the point the OP was trying to make is that he is getting no response from HMRC regarding legitimate queries made to them, and he is asking for help with this particular problem.

That is all.

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By lionofludesch
17th Apr 2019 12:03

I'm sure we all have stories about delays in HMRC responses.

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By nodrogbir
17th Apr 2019 12:55

I feel the two persons who are being most unhelpful will have quite a few clients who will be unhappy with their services as they seem to enjoy others misfortunes. They could also do with some spectacles as they clearly are not reading the information of other Awebers and numerous other commentators. The word "catty" springs to mind in their unwarranted replies.

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By Duggimon
17th Apr 2019 16:11

Nobody is happy about MTD, nobody thinks HMRC are doing a good job with it, and nobody is pleased about having to deal with it. You and GHarr497688's posts stand out though as being the most pointless, spurious, ill-informed and hyperbolic of all the negative posts on the subject though.

This thread has been worth it to find out you're the same person though, that at least was interesting.

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By GHarr497688
17th Apr 2019 18:33

I think you are being very hard on me tbh. Its freedom of speech and also I tend to ask specific questions to try and resolve real problems. Maybe it's the way you read my posts that your problem . You know nothing about me , tone of voice , look on the face , manners etc so why judge me , why even take the time and energy to write what you do. Surely your energy is wasted !!

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By GHarr497688
17th Apr 2019 21:35

Two names was not intentional - calm down please !

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By Duggimon
18th Apr 2019 08:51

I'm perfectly calm and have offered sensible and informed answers on previous threads but your Chicken Little wailing-and-gnashing-of-teeth approach to MTD is only going to make things harder on yourself and your clients. You constantly repeat the same issues, ignore the good information already posted on the subject and hugely exaggerate the problems, it's hard to take it seriously and very quickly becomes grating.

I don't need to know you or to understand the tone of your posts to know that they are often wrong, deliberately ignorant of the good advice you've already been offered and really just a place for you to vent about what you consider the problems to be, rather than an attempt to help or be helped.

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By GHarr497688
18th Apr 2019 18:38

You definitely don't sound calm , you sound off your face.

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By stepurhan
18th Apr 2019 09:16

GHarr497688 wrote:

Two names was not intentional - calm down please !

You should ask AccountingWeb to delete one then.

If you don't you risk having both deleted as having multiple accounts is not permitted for fairly obvious reasons.

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By GHarr497688
18th Apr 2019 18:39

Thanks for the advice .

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By legerman
18th Apr 2019 11:22

GHarr497688 wrote:

Two names was not intentional - calm down please !

On the plus side, that has halved the problem :-)

You and backwards Gordon have been the most prolific anti-MTD crusaders on here, and whilst two names may not have been intentional, you've used both names many times in the same threads.

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By GHarr497688
18th Apr 2019 14:07

Not my intention so sorry .

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By GHarr497688
18th Apr 2019 18:41

Simply because I recreated another name - forgot the old one on two different computers and then realised so logged on with my phone put the password in and it allowed me.
I guess this is the problem with computers and hence my worry over MTD . Despite what you might think my concerns are genuine as I feel more risk of tax being underpaid and MTD used as a reason. Of course and Law is a Law and we have to abide by them. Having said that if I think MTD is wrong then I can see no real harm to publish my personal experiences even if its seen as negative and also my views. If MTD is good nothing I can say on Aweb will detract from its benefits. Its freedom to speak out.

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By WhichTyler
17th Apr 2019 13:41

what are you asking HMRC about? How can we help?

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By Glenn Martin
17th Apr 2019 13:44

What is the issue you are having?

Have you applied to de-register someone for VAT and they have not done it yet.

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By nodrogbir
17th Apr 2019 15:18

thats correct - usually HMRC are quick and efficient at this , in the last month any contact is ignored.

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By Glenn Martin
17th Apr 2019 16:28

Did you not just apply online?

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By nodrogbir
17th Apr 2019 16:33

Yes I applied online in the usual way - received a response from HMRC and thats it - suppose I will have to write in to ask whats happening . Answered my own question.

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By Matrix
17th Apr 2019 19:27

Doesn’t it come up with the date of the final VAT return?

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By GHarr497688
17th Apr 2019 19:31

No

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By Matrix
17th Apr 2019 19:46

So what is the story here? If they are voluntarily registered then they are not in MTD. So, assuming the deregistration is MTD related, are they purposefully trading below the threshold to avoid keeping digital records and, if so, do you think this is the best thing for their business?

VAT complaints 0300 058 7529

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By GHarr497688
17th Apr 2019 21:33

It’s a general point . Hmrc were notified they wanted to deregistered and have not followed it through . I was simply asking if others had similar problems . I didn’t ask about the workings of the reasons and some of the contributors are down right rude .

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By NewACA
18th Apr 2019 05:32

Some mtd software suppliers know a lot about mtd, and can be far more helpful than HMRC. I would suggest getting one that helps with mtd registrations and mtd advice, that also have an easy system to use.

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By NewACA
18th Apr 2019 05:35

Duplicate post, sorry

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