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HMRC verification check SEISS New trader

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HMRC wasting time for all new traders

A letter to be sent

Trader gets a call

 

Need to dropbox statements and proof of trading AND ID

ALL MY CLIENTS WILL CONSIDER THIS TO BE A SCAM

Because now I know, I would be confident that the scammers know

You could not make it up, cos nobody would believe it

 

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By memyself-eye
09th Mar 2021 11:19

Your clients will phone you, asking you what to do.

For free of course.

But yes, overkill writ large.

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By Geoff56
09th Mar 2021 11:20

This is so wrong. HMRC seem to be intent on making life as difficult as they can, for a very large number of taxpayers. Seriously, are they doing this in an effort to restrict the numbers claiming?

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By lionofludesch
09th Mar 2021 12:43

Geoff56 wrote:

This is so wrong. HMRC seem to be intent on making life as difficult as they can, for a very large number of taxpayers. Seriously, are they doing this in an effort to restrict the numbers claiming?

They're making life a lot easier for me.

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By Geoff56
09th Mar 2021 14:02

Lion - perhaps I'm being a bit dense, but how is HMRC making life a lot easier for you?

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By lionofludesch
09th Mar 2021 14:57

Geoff56 wrote:

Lion - perhaps I'm being a bit dense, but how is HMRC making life a lot easier for you?

They've persuaded me into retirement a year earlier than I intended.

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By legerman
09th Mar 2021 15:21

lionofludesch wrote:

Geoff56 wrote:

Lion - perhaps I'm being a bit dense, but how is HMRC making life a lot easier for you?

They've persuaded me into retirement a year earlier than I intended.

Would it affect you? I've only got one it affects, and will be warning him to be ready. It'll be me uploading the docs I would imagine, unless we're not allowed

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By Paul Crowley
09th Mar 2021 15:33

For this HMRC are very happy for taxpayer to get their mates to do it.
Provided mate is on hand as does not go off somewhere for a couple of days

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By lionofludesch
09th Mar 2021 15:51

legerman wrote:

Would it affect you? I've only got one it affects, and will be warning him to be ready. It'll be me uploading the docs I would imagine, unless we're not allowed

It's not just SEISS, though, is it ? Most of my clients will have to up their game considerably in the next couple of years and I reckoned that they'd be better placed if the accountant who was acting for them in 2023 had set up their system. rather than a fella who'd retired in 2022.

Plus HMRC are beginning to annoy me.

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By Duggimon
09th Mar 2021 11:52

"The faculty is also raising with HMRC what happens in a situation where, due to local postal delays, taxpayers receive a phone call before their letter arrives and does not comply"

It is a constant slight to the Royal Mail that they are held partly or fully responsible for the postal delays in correspondence between HMRC and taxpayers.

There are only postal delays between HMRC and the outside world, all other post goes just fine and arrives when it is meant to. Two days for the letter and two weeks in HMRC's internal system is the normal travel time and any mess ups of the sort alluded to will be HMRC's fault, I am sure.

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By Paul Crowley
09th Mar 2021 12:27

It is worth reading the letter and notes
https://www.icaew.com/-/media/corporate/files/insights/tax-news/seiss4-p...

The call will be from an unknown number

Dropbox expires after 2 days
If HMRC have your landline, they only try 3 times
SO stop working for 2 weeks
And make sure you are ready by 08.00 am all sparky and ready to go

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By legerman
09th Mar 2021 15:35

Surely it would have been better for them to log in to their Government Gateway and upload the documents there? At the very least, log in to GG, and have the dropbox link there. Open to fraud and smacks of making it more difficult to claim.

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By Paul Crowley
09th Mar 2021 17:16

100%
They need a GG to be able to claim
Cannot be that difficult to add this malarky onto something that people have faith in.
Better still would be do not bother until they make a claim
That would probably take out a significant proportion from any review
Photos of id not really that good a check against fraudsters anyway.
Even better would be risk assess and only check a relevant high risk sample
I recon most of the drop box info will never be looked at anyway. Just an attempt to turn away the honest claimant.
HMRC must have lots of spare people doing nothing to have come up with this
Better they sorted out all the existing backlogs

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By Paul Crowley
14th Mar 2021 18:03

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