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Hotel internet benefit in kind?

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We have employees who have to work away at various points and the company will book a hotel room but also pay for internet if not inlcuded, would this be classed as a benefit in kind.?

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Slim
By Slim
07th Jun 2021 09:20

is the hotel in the Seychelles?

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By Paul Crowley
07th Jun 2021 09:26

Numerous hotels charge for parking.

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Internet needed for work emails etc and iphones
As Nelson would say, I see no benefit.

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By Slim
07th Jun 2021 10:10

I didnt read the question correctly.

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By Tax Dragon
07th Jun 2021 09:34

As you have provided such detailed information (not), it's unlikely that any replies will be reliable. The ones you have had so far definitely aren't.

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By stepurhan
07th Jun 2021 09:47

It depends on a lot of information you have not provided.

Which you would have to give up your anonymity to provide. Even then I'm not sure you would get helpful answers, since this is such a blatant abuse of anonymous.

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By The Dullard
07th Jun 2021 09:51

Yes.

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By tom123
07th Jun 2021 10:11

Pretty sure all my service engineers would rebel if I tried saying the internet in the hotel was a BIK.

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By Tax Dragon
07th Jun 2021 10:20

You'd expect them to pay the tax? Wow, I'm joining the rebellion. How much is it, btw? And have you heard of PSA?

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By SteveHa
07th Jun 2021 12:03

It doesn't sound like it would meet the "irregular" requirement for a PSA.

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By Wilson Philips
07th Jun 2021 12:06

Which part of "We have employees who have to work away at various points" suggests that the 'benefit' might be regular in nature?

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By tom123
07th Jun 2021 12:08

Quite the opposite - has never occurred to me that this could be taxable on them at all.

God, it's hard enough getting people to do some jobs as it is.

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By Tax Dragon
07th Jun 2021 12:20

tom123 wrote:

it's hard enough getting people to do some jobs as it is.

Maybe if you told them they had a taxable BIK and you were paying the tax for them, that might actually make it a more attractive proposition?

People are weird.

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By tom123
07th Jun 2021 12:26

It's not a taxable thing for me - I am neither declaring a benefit or paying a PSA.

Caveat - I do expect wifi available to enable work to be done.

But then, I don't charge for uniform, or other stuff either (which I have seen on here)

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By Tax Dragon
07th Jun 2021 12:34

No you said.

My previous post was making a human psychology point, not a tax one.

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By Charityguy
10th Jun 2021 11:13

Does paying the tax for them create a separate BIK?

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By Tax Dragon
10th Jun 2021 11:56

Good thinking - yes and it's taken account of as part of the PSA (i.e. there's a grossing up step [IIRC - been a while since I've done one]).

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By The Dullard
07th Jun 2021 14:06

I don't think trivial benefits touches this, so I don't know why it's even being discussed.

Either it's for work purposes, and either just an incidental cost of the travel, or it's an exempt benefit. In the unlikely even that it's neither of those things, then it will be covered by the personal (overnight) incidental expenses, unless the cost is extortionate.

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By Tax Dragon
07th Jun 2021 15:31

Last time I looked it was £5, but (I'd've thought - CBA to check) that's for all incidentals combined, not each separately.

Re your 'why'... in my case, ref my first reply it's the CBA(FA) effect again. AOP CBA to provide info or make any apparent effort, I CBA to set out (FA) the various possibilities.

My subsequent replies were teasing Tom. (I've enjoyed teasing Tom, ever since he told us about his tax-deductible wife. And Tom seems smart enough to tell teasing from serious responses.)

FA = For Anonymous.

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By The Dullard
07th Jun 2021 16:19

It's £10 for the Seychelles!

I can't be arsed either, hence my initial response. However, I then don't understand people discussing the fineries of PSAs - which was what I was actually referring to - I know I said trivial benefits, but it wasn't what I meant.

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By Mr_awol
10th Jun 2021 11:31

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I've enjoyed teasing Tom, ever since he told us about his tax-deductible wife.

Have you (or Tom) any tips on getting tax deductions on wives (i use the plural but i mean generally. I have just the one - for now*).

I only ask since mine is reasonably expensive, so any tax breaks would be appreciated. It needs to apply to existing/current wives, so (for example) if i get a super-deduction for a new one then whilst that seems fairly tempting on the face of it, I suspect that would work out more expensive in the long run/overall (even with additional tax relief) so I'd like to avoid it if at all possible.

* Whilst i understand some people do have a main home and a second/holiday home, and some extend this principle to second/holiday wives, it all seems like a lot of effort to me.

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