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By tom123
20th May 2020 08:21

Yet another of my main customers (Rolls Royce) is in the news today giving bad news.
Also see Jaguar Land Rover, JCB.

Half the firm on furlough.

Plus, for added fun, I am a primary school chair of governors, and trustee of a charity that is currently closed!

Of course not 'my' company as such - rather my employer - but still difficult.

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By Chris.Mann
20th May 2020 09:22

Interestingly, I'm a primary school vice-chair of Governors and we have our Summer virtual meeting, this evening, facilitated by Zoom. That should be interesting! There have been some awful brickbats, over the last week or so, directed towards the teaching profession and much has been; unkind and inappropriate, in my opinion.

I had mild symptoms of the virus, at the end of March, which wasn't pleasant at all. I had worrying memory issues and a build up of anxiety, which I've only come to terms with, in the last week or so. Used to love red wine and now, I can't abide the stuff! Even Lion will testify to my complete loss of humour! A truly strange package of variances, old Covid carries!

Work wise, I've soldiered along, to the best of my ability. In comparison to CJRS claims and general nurturing of client's I've done little "added" paid work. Fortunately, I have a reasonable element of monthly subscriptions, which my client's seem to prefer. I'm now beginning to see light at the end of the tunnel. Three new enquiries, yesterday, alone, which I'm grateful for.

At the back of my mind, I think the virus will continue to rule our lives and I think the economy will be in a truly dire state. One only has to the look at the potential High Street landscape; John Lewis, M&S, House of Fraser, Debenhams, Cafe Rouge, Bella Italia and the knock on effect for commercial landlords.

Just think, this time last year, who could have predicted such devastation. So cruel. So, so sad.

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By lionofludesch
20th May 2020 09:35

I'm looking forward not to having to queue to get in to shops.

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By NYB
20th May 2020 09:39

Completely fed up not being able to socialise. Fed up with CJRS and its hassle. Thankful I have lovely house and garden. Thankful I am well.
And in response to others totally thannkful I am not Chair of Governors anymore because they get blamed for everything when its bad.

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By FirstTab
20th May 2020 10:02

I feel great today, because of my lockdown first time DIY haircut went well this morning thanks to YouTube. This combined with hair colouring, I look so much younger.

Next, 20,000 steps target today. To feel even better.

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By gainsborough
20th May 2020 14:48

Hope you are doing okay too Constantly Confused!

FirstTab, I am exactly the same. Just dyed my hair and cut (for the second time), so have gone from some scruffy looking scarecrow to somewhat presentable! The great weather today has also lifted my mood so looking forward to a glass of vino in the garden tonight (and thankful that we have a garden).

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By Red Leader
20th May 2020 16:53

Why do you colour your hair? It's just makes the rest of us look older!

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By FirstTab
20th May 2020 17:51

Hello RL, needs must.

I am dating someone who is a few years younger. Don't want look like her dad.

You always look good.

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By FirstTab
20th May 2020 17:51

Hello RL, needs must.

I am dating someone who is a few years younger. Don't want look like her dad.

You always look good.

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By Cheshire
21st May 2020 12:39

What does she think of you colouring your hair? If I was dating an older man I would much rather they didn't because its always so obvious when men do. and mostly looks awful. (Grow old gracefully and be proud!)

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By FirstTab
20th May 2020 10:02

I feel great today, because of my lockdown first time DIY haircut went well this morning thanks to YouTube. This combined with hair colouring, I look so much younger.

Next, 20,000 steps target today. To feel even better.

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By lesley.barnes
20th May 2020 10:13

I'm looking forward to not having to queue to get in or out of shops and on getting in find social distancing doesn't exist once through the doors. I was well and truley told off yesterday at a garden centre by a customer because I was a rebel and used the "in" door as an exit. I confess I knew I was going out the wrong door I just wanted to escape. I couldn't get what I wanted - growbags(they seem to be in short supply in my neck of the woods). I had bought nothing but to get through the "out" door you had to get in the queue at the one till that was working. No way past and there were 14 trolley loads of plants waiting to be checked through. Madness.

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By DJKL
20th May 2020 12:51

No idea if they still have but about 6 weeks back I found Marshall's online shop was one of the few places I could get compost from, they delivered eight bags to us a few weeks back.

https://marshallsgarden.com/collections/compost-1

I have a tray of plugs from Thompson & Morgan to get in later today, whilst plant deliveries have been a tad erratic since March I have pretty much managed to get everything I need for the garden using Marshalls, Thompson & Morgan and J Parker.

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By memyself-eye
20th May 2020 11:02

Pub shut....
Deep sadness

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By gainsborough
20th May 2020 16:26

...agreed - miss the social contact....

Yet, somehow, I am still managing to consume at least twice the alcohol I usually do and I won't mention the endless biscuits and chocolate. I am going to be twice the accountant I was before lockdown (literally).

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By Duggimon
20th May 2020 11:43

I've been a lot better since I stopped obsessively reading the news. We miss our daughter who moved out last year and who we haven't seen outside of a video call in months, and work has been hellishly busy, as it has been for everyone else on here I expect, but we're all well and we're grateful for that.

Off to visit the school beehives today to tend to them, the after school beekeeping group we help out with is obviously not going to meet for a while and this is a busy time for the bees. Hope they're doing well, I can only imagine this move towards a green paradise that lockdown has initiated will be good news for them.

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By Steve Holloway
20th May 2020 12:18

One accountant and one HR Manager in one house does not lead to wide and varied dinner conversation! We have found that having total embargo days helps. No news on TV and any mention of the 'V' word leads to a £1 in the jar! ( I was going to say the 'C' word but realise that could lead you to believe we live in a really rough house!).

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By accountantccole
20th May 2020 12:59

We're into week two of relaxed rules in France, doing a day in the office each week, rest home working. Enjoying the flexibility. Finally got to take the dog for a walk more than 1km from home at the weekend and glad to no longer be filling forms everytime I leave the house! Visited the hairdressers (masked up and lots of sanitiser) at the weekend which was a welcome trip. Renewed family relationships via Webex.
Sun is shining, snow on Mont Blanc glistening. Today is a good day
May CJRS claims in progress, large ones done. P11d fun this week to keep me distracted.
Son went back to school yesterday, heavy segregation of classes and playground.
Getting to grips with getting back to normal but with extra precautions and accepting we will probably all get the virus at some point but trying to delay that for as long as I can!
Hoping enough clients survive to keep me in the manner I have become accustomed to!

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By Alex_T
20th May 2020 21:01

You had me at visit to the hairdressers... sounds like bliss. Enjoy!

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By New To Accountancy
20th May 2020 14:19

On a negative:
I'm feeling a bit crap at the moment. I've young children and getting work done as and when I can rather than at a set time is frustrating and on my stubborn days I want to give it up. Working nights when I'm already exhausted is horrible. Working very early mornings is pointless as it's almost life my kids have bluetooth signal to tell them mums up.
Hubby helps but works so is tired too. Working during the day isn't fair to my gorgeous kids, I'm mum first, plus home schooling, cleaning, cooking and everything else doesn't give much chance anyway.

I've realised I'm not much without routine.

On a positive (gratitude) :
I'm on my way out for a walk along the beach as fresh air will hopefully lift my spirits.
My family are happy and healthy. I've realised how lucky I am to have routine when the kids are at nursery / school.
My client list is fab, they're understanding and 'normal' and have been grateful for my help, even though I have felt I could have been better.

Thank you for asking this question - I hope you are doing well.

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By Southwestbeancounter
20th May 2020 15:00

Good to have a nice thoughtful question for a change rather than a question about CJRS or SEISS claims etc so thanks for asking that Constantly Confused; hope all is good with you.

For me, I was totally exhausted for the first couple of months really - I had an eye infection, felt quite a bit under par generally, was constantly giving far too much of myself to 'D list' clients, watched too much of the news and as a result my anxiety levels went through the roof.

I have now been getting to bed earlier, intentionally not answering non-emergency emails the day I receive them, not immediately answering the phone to clients who I feel should fend for themselves a bit more, doing breathing exercises for my anxiety and dosing up on vitamin D & B and I am feeling far better this week and am actually enjoying work again although the weather today is so gorgeous I would prefer to be at the beach!

There are only two of us here and we have been exceptionally busy with all the Business rates grants, CJRS and SEISS claims let alone the usual Payroll, VAT returns and month end work etc but clients have left us some lovely messages to thank us for all our help so that makes it all worthwhile.

Good luck everyone and keep well!

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By JD
27th May 2020 18:26

Became rather frazzled due to the lack of team (as they were WFH/Childcare), furlough claims for all and sundry and numpty D clients who are only interested in what they can claim, blaming you when they cannot make a claim or the money is slow in arriving as that is easier than showing a bit of creativity and innovation.

Even though it goes completely against the grain, I have for the first time ever cut the phone lines, switched on auto response for emails and created and easy to fill out form and price for those wanting us to set up government gateways. Result was brilliant, even had some time to do some proper work.

If C-19 has taught me anything it has nothing to do with working from home (I still think the office and bringing the team together is fundamental) but certainly I will be less available to clients.

Thank you Aweb and everybody here.

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By Southwestbeancounter
20th May 2020 18:08

Quote:"If C-19 has taught me anything it has nothing to do with working from home (I still think the office and bring the team together is fundamental) but certainly I will be less available to clients."
That's exactly what I've learned - I was available 24/7 before and then once there is an emergency like this they expect you to be even more available and I had nothing more to give so I'm 100% with you on that one and it feels great!

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By Open all hours
20th May 2020 18:55

Feeling really good thank you.

Always intended to be busy so cannot ever complain about that. Work as part of a small team of three and in our different ways we have excelled at client relations, advice and administration as confirmed by the many grateful messages we have received. Have worked at least three hours of every day since whenever this kicked off in March. Earliest contact with another adviser, 3.30am (he texted me, knowing I would be up) latest contact with a client, 10.45pm. Also worked pro bono for some unrepresented who were desperate but deserving

A few of our clients will not survive this financially but at least we know we didn’t let them down.

This is our time to shine.

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By spilly
20th May 2020 23:38

I’m discovering the joy of getting up earlier and starting the day with a cup of proper coffee whilst enjoying my peaceful garden.
Come 8am the neighbouring gardens fill with hordes (seems like loads but might be only 5 or 6) of shouting kids on trampolines, several over-excited dogs barking, and a music student practicing on a full drumkit.
I retire inside to my home office and turn up the radio just enough to blot out the outside noise.

Things are looking better work-wise now that most clients have sorted out their grants, loans, furlough etc. I am starting to get some proper work done again, but am not at all sure all my clients will still have a business this time next year.

Initially we found ourselves inundated with queries from clients and they were taking up all our time. We reduced our available hours to mornings only for phone calls, and found this a great help in managing tasks effectively. Am wondering whether to continue with this afterwards.

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By Cheshire
21st May 2020 12:48

Im self isolating due to be being high risk, so even my shopping is being done by someone else.

Working from home is a breeze, clients dropping stuff round and after the carnage of the first few weeks of information dumping about CJRS etc, its calmed down a bit.

The not being able to just pop to the shops is driving me mad. The not getting what shopping I asked for is also an irritation, occasionally....dont get me wrong, Im extremely grateful, its just a bit frustrating but only because Ive got nothing else in my life to complain about. Apart from just one very very very noisy neighbour, whom Im about ready to kill! Oh and the collapsed drain Ive had to sort out. Plus the leak on my central heating system, with 4 visits from a plumber and still ongoing. Apart from that life is great.

My family and friends are all safe and well. Long may that continue.

Just hope the job position doesnt get too rocky for my boy who bought his own house just over 12 months ago, but at least he finally got sensible with his money in the last couple of years after much nagging by me so does have a buffer.

Have a brother stuck in the US still - BA keep cancelling his flight home, with his VISA almost expired.

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By mrme89
21st May 2020 20:43

It would seem that I suffered from Covid-19 last week. Still feeling quite s41tty from it.

Other than that, working from home after converting a spare bedroom into a full time office.

Missing family and friends a lot, as well as a beer garden.

In the grand scheme of things, our household is very fortunate.

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By Red Leader
22nd May 2020 15:03

How do you think you caught it, e.g. public transport?

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By mrme89
22nd May 2020 19:30

I’m working from home ... converted the spare bedroom into an office for me and my partner.

The only place we go is the supermarket. We take hand sanitiser and wash our hands constantly and wipe the trolley handles.

We do. go for a walk, but always cross the road as people are approaching.

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By Red Leader
23rd May 2020 11:37

I've found that supermarkets are very varied in the visitor density they allow inside and therefore the proximity of other people. Our local Morrisons was much too busy inside but Tesco was much better managed with lower density and a one-way system through the aisles.

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By lionofludesch
23rd May 2020 11:53

I like the way people cheerfully queue 2m apart whilst outside, where the risk is low, but crowd together inside the shop where risk is higher.

If you're in the way of that strawberry yogurt they need, they'll push past you.

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By DJKL
23rd May 2020 12:16

Given they were strawberry perfectly understandable.

The guvnor has taken to holding in stock mousse sorts of things that don't need stored in the fridge to ensure such essentials are not a problem if we cannot get her favourite yoghurts etc one week. For me the life essentials are bags of nuts and Malbec, luckily neither appears in short supply though we are likely a week away from needing to order another case of Malbec. (We have a wholesale wine merchant tenant just down the road who delivers)

We are still a non going out to shop household.

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By lionofludesch
23rd May 2020 13:15

DJKL wrote:

We are still a non going out to shop household.

I expect you're used to carrying months worth of food in the freezers, in case you're snowed in over the harsh, Scottish winter.

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By Red Leader
23rd May 2020 12:51

I think for those of us who don't need to use public transport and can work from home, visits to busy supermarkets must be the main risk of getting CV-19.

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By lionofludesch
23rd May 2020 15:35

Red Leader wrote:

I think for those of us who don't need to use public transport and can work from home, visits to busy supermarkets must be the main risk of getting CV-19.

Been to tsupermarket today. No queue to get in. One person in front of us at ttill. Called at tchemist on tway back. No queues there either.

I was a bit surprised.

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By stepurhan
22nd May 2020 11:28

Not been doing great past few weeks. I am at slightly higher risk due to a permanent respiratory issue, so I have been hardly going out. Couple that with lots of "we have no income, what can we do" conversations (especially with sole directors working from home, eligible for small CJRS claims at best) and the strain has been telling.

Yesterday I finally took a moderately long walk. Kept distance and put a mask on when that became less practicable. Feeling more positive as a result today.

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By Red Leader
22nd May 2020 15:05

I wish you well. As an asthma sufferer, albeit mild, I was under the impression that respiratory pre-existing conditions weren't a factor in the severity of a CV-19 infection.

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By stepurhan
22nd May 2020 15:25

Red Leader wrote:

I wish you well. As an asthma sufferer, albeit mild, I was under the impression that respiratory pre-existing conditions weren't a factor in the severity of a CV-19 infection.

Interesting, though I think I will err on the side of caution regardless.

Just out of curiosity, do you know where you got that impression. I cannot recall where I got the impression that it was a risk, so I am not saying I think you are wrong. Indeed, it would be calming to know you are right.

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By Red Leader
22nd May 2020 17:27

Yes, best to be cautious, prudent even. I think it was rather that pre-existing respiratory issues were surprisingly not the most likely co-factor in CV-19 deaths, though still a factor. Heart disease and diabetes were higher up the list.

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By Cheshire
23rd May 2020 11:55

I have asthma, mostly controlled for last few years but having had bouts of really bad times, barely being able to breathe and literally having to fight for every breath is extremely scary. So personally I didnt want to take any chances, although have to say initially I was pressured to isolate more by my family, than by my own asthmatic recollections.

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By Dib
27th May 2020 13:37

I think the point is that diabetics are at risk of developing ketoacidosis (which is very serious if untreated) with this virus as well as the general risk of an inflammatory response in the lungs which other folk, asthmatic or not, are also in danger of getting.

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By spilly
22nd May 2020 19:55

Way back before lockdown I had all the symptoms of Covid-19 bar the cough. It is not at all like a bad case of flu - the only resemblance is in the high temperature.
I have mild asthma and really struggled with breathing for a couple of days. I think if someone has not had asthma before and didn’t have access to ‘puffers’ it would be quite scary. Luckily I was only ill for about a week but was left exhausted, and this has persisted, albeit lessening every week.
So my advice would definitely be to take every precaution if you already have a respiratory condition. It seems everyone reacts slightly differently to this virus, but I was genuinely quite scared whilst going through it and certainly would not wish it on my worst enemy.

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By Trish Baillie
27th May 2020 11:13

I have mild asthma and mild COPD and got the dreaded 12 week letter to stay home and shield - GP is of the impression that asthma can be an issue with C-19.
So, staying home with the occasional sneaky walk out when it's early and I'm unlikely to meet anyone else.

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