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Lack of Quickbooks Online Coverage

Lack of Quickbooks Online Coverage

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Considering the large coverage of XeroCon this year i am surprised at the lack of coverage of the Quickbooks GetConnected events, which should i feel also get the same level - unless this site is biased towards one or the other.

Having been myself the new QBO Online payroll AutoEnrolment ready blows the main cloud competition out of the water with the fact it deals with everything including all of the letters (unlike Xero and Sage One)

I am a user of all 3 and of desktop Sage(and the like) so no biased on my part - just think it should be given equal coverage along with Xero.

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Teignmouth
By Paul Scholes
27th Feb 2015 18:15

Not sure

I have nothing against QBO, I don't use it but you can't click on Accweb now without a pop-up or banner for one of the Cloud companies....Kashflow is above as I tap.

It is always difficult to know but a significant amount of coverage here and elsewhere is paid for  and, as with Accountex, Xero and Sage spend a lot of time & money to get their name in our faces.  

I don't know about the scale of the QB Get Connected events but after a bit of digging I see that the events this year started in London with 50 accountants at Vinopolis.  Ironically it's likely that such a small gathering (in such a nice venue) was very worthwhile but it's on a different scale to sayXerocon or Irisworld, where Accweb can gather the views of a load of captive accountants in one place.

My personal view, as a punter, is that, whilst every company has to market itself, there are smarter, less expensive and blingy ways of doing it, for example, like accountants do, provide an excellent service to your users and wait for the recommendations to come through the door.

I'd much rather the provider spend their money on developing the software than filling huge exhibition space or buying more yet more pens, chocolates, and bloody pop-ups.

 

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By lordlancaster
02nd Mar 2015 11:23

Sage One Payroll & Auto Enrolment?

Hi Si (and Paul),

Our Sage One Payroll software already provides all the functionality that a 1-15 employee business needs to prepare for Automatic Enrolment.

We've been adding this in stages to the software since late August and you can read all about this on our blog or website.

I don't think I'm allowed to post direct links to our website on here but if you do a quick Google search for 'Sage One Automatic Enrolment' you'll find all the info :o)

Thanks

Paul Lancaster
Sage One UK & Ireland
http://uk.sageone.com/blog/

 

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Teignmouth
By Paul Scholes
02nd Mar 2015 12:12

@lordlancaster

So what?

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By lordlancaster
04th Mar 2015 12:37

RE: So what?
Err, because Si_Woodhams said Sage One didn't...! "The new QBO Online payroll AutoEnrolment ready blows the main cloud competition out of the water with the fact it deals with everything including all of the letters (unlike Xero and Sage One). I also agree with you when you say 'there are smarter smarter, less expensive and blingy ways' of marketing your service. We spend a lot of time gathering customer feedback over the phone, in person, in surveys and online using services like TrustPilot. Coming on sites like AccountingWEB and responding to queries about Sage One or correcting inaccuracies are another good way of doing this which is what I'm doing here so accountants and bookkeepers can make up their own mind instead of just believing the latest flashy ad or PR campaign. Cheers Paul Lancaster
Sage One UK & Ireland
http://uk.sageone.com/blog/

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Teignmouth
By Paul Scholes
03rd Mar 2015 11:39

Thanks Paul

Sorry, probably my inbuilt distain for Sage, it shouldn't be that automatic!

Trying to be objective however, and ignoring my DNA, the OP is saying that, unlike Xero & Sage One, QBO handles everything on AE and you responded that Sage handles AE.

So I suppose it remains for one of you to compare features to see if the Op is right?

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By lordlancaster
03rd Mar 2015 12:49

Decide for yourself

Paul Scholes wrote:

Sorry, probably my inbuilt distain for Sage, it shouldn't be that automatic!

Trying to be objective however, and ignoring my DNA, the OP is saying that, unlike Xero & Sage One, QBO handles everything on AE and you responded that Sage handles AE.

So I suppose it remains for one of you to compare features to see if the Op is right?

I would love to do a direct comparison on here & provide links to prove what I say but the last time few times I've done that I've had my posts edited or removed by AccountingWEB moderators for being 'too pro-Sage One'. Instead I'm hoping that readers will do their research and decide for themselves which is honestly best for their clients ;o)

Paul Lancaster
Sage One UK & Ireland
http://uk.sageone.com/blog/

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John Stokdyk, AccountingWEB head of insight
By John Stokdyk
04th Mar 2015 10:14

Just to clarify with the OP...

We do pay attention to QBO on AccountingWEB, and have a dedicated tag page for the application that includes several stories specifically about it, or mentioning the growing rivalry between the big three global cloud players.

My only plea in this instance would be that the period of your sample is skewed in Xero's favour because of Xerocon, which was an event that drew several hundred accountants to Battersea - and AccountingWEB as an exhibitor because we wanted to connect with all those potential new members (and meet the other exhibitors).

We are aware of the Get Connected roadshows, but these are smaller regional events that are geared more to meeting and educating accountants nearer their home territory than to create a the kind of big impression that attracts journalists and news coverage. I wanted to go to one of their events in the autumn, but was caught by a diary clash. Stung by your criticism, we'll make a point of catching up with QBO developments asap.

However during recent months I've come to the conclusion that the great war between QBO, Xero and Sage One is probably going to settle down into a regional stalemate (QBO controls North America, Xero rules the roost down under and Sage One will retain a position in the UK and Europe). But around them all the different add-on developers are flourishing and turning cloud accounting into a genuinely global market place.

If you are looking for bias in our recent coverage, it's probably more focused on add-ons than on the core accounting engines.

PS - Thanks for your feedback,Si. If you really wanted to help improve the quality of our cloud accounting coverage, you could let us know your thoughts on the three main systems. PM me or email editor[AT]accountingweb.co.uk if you'd like to discuss this privately.

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Bobby Chadha
By Bobby Chadha
04th Mar 2015 23:02

thank you Si_Woodhams
We've just literally finished our Manchester event today and we've heard some great feedback around QBO and our payroll product developments. Thank you for supporting us and please keep providing us with feedback

@John Stokdyk, we know you love us :) feel free to get in touch, we can share some info regarding our regional events.

Cheers,

Bobby Chadha
Product Manager QuickBooks Online

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