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Late filing penalties

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I must ask you to reconsider the position in respect of accounts that should have been filed by 31st March (y/e 30th June 2019)

I note the comments from Companies House Chief Executive, Louise Smyth on the CH website  but the protocol issued on 25th March does not go far enough and has a number of flaws

I submit the accounts for  number of companies but am unable to use my ‘client’ login to access the new service. Each company has to have its own login. Why is this? it is the same for filleted or abridged accounts. We should be able to file using the company’s authorisation code and our client login.

The time scale from 25th March to 31st March for applying is far too short for 30th June 2019 year end accounts. Especially for clients who live or are stranded abroad. 

Getting a code for a company where one was not needed using our client login is not possible in that short time scale as they are being delivered by post but for obvious reasons our offices have been closed so even if the code had been delivered (restrictions in postal deliveries) it would not have been possible to access them.

Furthermore some of the information is in hard copy in our office and also unobtainable at the moment.

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By johnny fartpants
01st Apr 2020 16:39

Hi Carnmores. I managed to get an extension for the one company I had which needed more time via my (not the clients) Companies House account. I followed this link:

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/apply-for-more-time-to-file-your-companys-ac...

It also worked pretty quickly too. I had an emailed confirmation that the 3 month extension had been granted within an hour.

I hope this helps??

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By johnny fartpants
01st Apr 2020 16:41

Sorry, I misread your original post. I used my client account but the client's authentication code number to ,make the application.

Do your clients have a problem letting you have these?

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By carnmores
01st Apr 2020 16:46

one has never had one the other is stranded in Africa. i have always filed using my clients codes for micro accounts & AR/AC without a problem. the timescale was simply too short when i was trying to file yesterday

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By carnmores
01st Apr 2020 16:50

I can get in as normal to file AC or accounts but not to request postponement, its not joined up thinking.

nick

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By lionofludesch
01st Apr 2020 16:57

Hmm - advancing the ARD might have been a better move.

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By carnmores
01st Apr 2020 17:05

possibly i was thinking laterally yesterday but thank you

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By Wilson Philips
01st Apr 2020 16:58

There is no need for a client or agent login. Use the specific link for requesting an extension - you only need to register an email address.

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By carnmores
01st Apr 2020 17:06

ah yes i could have registered a new address but that shouldnt really have been necessary ?

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By Wilson Philips
01st Apr 2020 17:54

Possibly not, but surely quicker/safer than fretting about not being able to access by other methods? I have my wife’s company’s access details but it was still quicker for me to use the dedicated COVID-19 service, adding my own email.

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By djtax
10th Apr 2020 12:27

thanks for pointing this out - like the sender of the original post above, I had also assumed the usual 'client' log in would work but it did not. Setting up a new email registration seems to work fine though it is irritating that Co House do not make it clear that existing log ins do not work for this purpose.

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By carnmores
11th Apr 2020 17:28

thank you i think i have arranged a moratorium

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By lionofludesch
01st Apr 2020 18:07

The system will no doubt be penalty notice first, appeal if you wish.

You've caused yourself a bit of hassle but I think you have decent grounds for appeal. Directors out of touch with the rest of the world, dodgy system for claiming an extension, scheme only announced ten minutes before the deadline.

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By carnmores
02nd Apr 2020 17:58

Indeed

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By lincolnartist
10th Apr 2020 13:33

What were the clients doing between 1st July 2019 and when coronavirus started? Tardiness shouldn't be exempted.

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By carnmores
11th Apr 2020 17:24

sorry this is a typically useless reply. a deadline is a deadline and if thru force majeure clients cant comply then my view is that i should try and help them rather than saying why didnt you do it earlier

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