Moneysoft have just updated their program to mark employee as Furloughed:-
https://moneysoft.co.uk/support/furloughed-workers/
Also have produced CJRS summary report:-
https://moneysoft.co.uk/support/coronavirus-job-retention-scheme-online-...
Hoping when final guidance for employer's NI Claim comes out that payroll software providers will have some further inbuilt functionality.
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Isn't working though! and can't get through to them
All JRS processed as an Addition - Furloughed pay, and for three weeks
Thanks. I haven’t done the update but put an extra field in for furloughed pay and added it manually.
Does Moneysoft calculate it for you? I will run the update and try it for the next one. I have put it all on spreadsheets ready to copy into the system and my brain is hurting.
Yes - we did the update and there is a detailed CJRS claim under analysis that can be broken down to each employee.
From what we can see the employer nic allowance is automatically offset against any employer nic before the grant claim.
Yes - appreciate that if you untick the EA claim then it will obviously include the ER NIC in the grant.
Have not seen any clarity on the EA position and there only seems to be assumptions that if you claim the EA you won't be able to claim ER NIC under the CJRS.
I've just run the upgrade and had a play. It currently isn't pulling any info into the claim summary because I've only got 2 weeks but presumably when week 3 is completed it'll work. Should be a huge help. I did have to tick which pay elements are included in the furlough scheme as per the help guide so make sure you do that first.
First claim will be split between the two tax years so will probably need manual calculation.
Edit - just also realised you now have to mark the employee as furloughed (control F) which apparently is also a new feature.
Same for us - followed all the guidance, processed week 3 today, ahead for next week, and nothing in the report for any client
Have you seen the extra bit about "control F" against the furloughed employee. It puts an F against their name in the pay details and then those employees are picked up. Figures aren't correct though :(
I've just tested the CJRS claim report against my own calculation for two employees furloughed mid month, and it's a 100 yards away from where it should be.
Use with caution. Kudos to Moneysoft for trying, but the implementation is lacking.
I can't get it to agree either. First one I checked relates to the pension contributions but also tried a really simple one with gross wage of £325 and the claim comes up as £240 rather than £260. Must be a reason but I'm not seeing it.
Nope, is was me being an idiot and not seeing what was right in front of my eyes.
Richard has been in touch, and pointed out the error of my ways.
Ignore me.
Mine is including Employer's NIC in the grant. Doesn't make a difference whether I tick the EA box or not.
**EDIT**
That said, it depends which report I look at, and even which bit of each report I look at. From "Pay details" then "Click for an explanation" then "CJRS claim" it includes it regardless. Under "Analysis" and "CJRS claim summary" the actual summary page is correct but the employee detail below that includes Employer's NIC regardless of the EA being ticked or not.
Ah yes - and it makes sense, thanks very much - I'm sure that FAQ wasn't there this morning!
Thanks to Wanderer.
So the report is using February 2020 pay even when the pay is variable and you have to go into the individual employee if they have varied pay and override the setting. Now it makes sense.
Moneysoft claim summary includes all furloughed employees even if their furlough period is less than 3 weeks? Alert pops up only if the claim period is less than 3 weeks.
Can't see how to keep a track of who's pay has been claimed for and who's haven't.
Maybe I'm just tired and overworked
Software assumes employee is furloughed from 1st of that pay period.
So monthly employees, some furloughed on 14th April, will show up on claim summary for month of April.
The claim can't be calculated all within moneysoft if we can't enter furlough start dates.
The claim can't be calculated all within moneysoft if we can't enter furlough start dates.
To be fair to Moneysoft, the legislation is all over the place, and they have had less time to try to implement the changes (still with incomplete detail) than Government have, and Government haven't managed it yet, so cut them some slack for not allowing you to turn your brain off completely.
Seconded. Richard from Moneysoft emailed me to advise don't use the CJRS report for working out the claim until they update the software to accommodate these latest changes.
Am I correct in thinking Moneysoft have now withdrawn the calculation because of the changes on Friday ? Hope they manage to incorporate something by tomorrow
Yes, this is correct. We are now working to try and get something into the software that will be of use when processing the CJRS claim by tomorrow.
I am a little confused, nothing new there i hear you cry. I manually updated the program and not sure whether this is the same upgrade that was available before the last minute change in calculation guidelines. On which screen do you mark an employee as furloughed. i too added an addition column furlough to make this easier hopefully.
in early April i calculated the furlough pay manually for 20 employees out of the 50 of my client, the mistake i made was for employees subsequently furloughed half way thru the month. i didn't pro rata them so have now recalculated using the daily rate and am looking for guidance that that is correct.
hats off to Moneysoft for their efforts, it must be galling when HMRC change the rules so close to the deadline
FYI
Given the limited amount of time available to us since hearing from HMRC on Friday evening and the requirements of the calculations (and some still un-answered questions regarding items such as the employment allowance and csv file formats) we (Moneysoft) have not been able to produce a full calculator facility within the software.
We have however managed to add some features and reports to the software over the weekend which will hopefully prove useful.
Our updated guide can be viewed at https://moneysoft.co.uk/support/coronavirus-job-retention-scheme-online-...