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See para 25:

http://www.bailii.org/uk/cases/UKFTT/TC/2019/TC06970.html

Quite right. Well said!

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By lionofludesch
13th Feb 2019 14:18

Sounds like HMRC themselves have mental issues if they didn't think this case had special circumstances.

Though, paradoxically, this merely strengthens their argument that mental health is common.

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By Kaylee100
13th Feb 2019 14:43

I think it perhaps shows how homelessness is now considered by our Government to be a normal way of life?

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By lionofludesch
13th Feb 2019 14:51

Thatcher's legacy.

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By lesley.barnes
13th Feb 2019 15:53

Thanks Justin this is really useful. I'm dealing with a case at the moment were HMRC have refused to withdraw tax returns from 2011 - 2015 under "exceptional circumstances". My client was on the streets, sleeping rough, in hostels and finally detained in a mental health unit. He didn't know tax returns had been issued until he registered for self employment last year. Why they were issued in the first place isn't clear unless it was because he disappeared from PAYE when he lost his job. HMRC stance is the returns need completing but there is nothing to put on a return and of course the danger is once the blank returns are submitted HMRC will continue to chase the fines.

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By fawltybasil2575
13th Feb 2019 16:06

It was to the entire good fortune of HMRC that the appellant was unrepresented.

If the appellant had been so represented, then Judge Akeksander would surely have, in view of the unreasonable conduct of HMRC, exceptionally awarded Costs against them.

Perhaps, in recognition of that fact, the learned Judge was remiss in not having strongly urged HMRC to make payment (of an amount equivalent to the estimated appellant’s Costs which would have been incurred had the appellant been represented) to SHELTER.

Such payment would 0f course recognise the”special circumstances” of that HMRC misconduct.

Basil.

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By gainsborough
13th Feb 2019 17:03

Thanks Justin for sharing and well done to the judge for his common sense and comments.

How depressing that this case made it that far though...a bit like the Wizard of Oz, some characters clearly missing brains and a heart....

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By andy.partridge
13th Feb 2019 17:05

Thank you, Justin. Interesting.
Also noted that HMRC wrongly cited Crabtree v Hinchcliffe to support their case. Scoundrels.

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By legerman
13th Feb 2019 17:13

How did this even get to tribunal? Unless you have zilch empathy the penalties should have been withdrawn on initial appeal. However, if Lesley is also experiencing difficulties with a similar situation maybe there is no empaphy at HMRC.

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By Tax Dragon
13th Feb 2019 17:15

On this one I think most of us will agree.

Is it HMRC's fault though? There is an increasing tendency for legislation to be prescriptive and for a removal of discretion. HMRC has suffered as much as anyone from that shift (and will have taken the action in this case without much thought, in consequence).

The motive for these changes might appear good (it's done in the name of consistency of outcome for all us citizens), but is it really good for us? As the ultimate outcome in this case sounds correct, it won't cause any ripples or lead to a change in this policy trend. And, as has happened in this thread, HMRC gets the blame and no-one questions the policy [well, I am, but who cares about me?], the truck keeps rolling.

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By SteveHa
13th Feb 2019 18:42

Of course it's HMRC's fault for completely failing to recognise being chucked out on the street, losing all your worldly belongings, and sleeping on a park bench as exceptional circumstances.

Unless things have changed, no employee of HMRC has been landed in the same situation on a mass scale, so it's hardly normal.

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By Tax Dragon
15th Feb 2019 17:34

You miss my point.

The (prescriptive) law is headed “Special reduction” and what it says is “ if HMRC think it right because of special circumstances, they may reduce a penalty… ‘special circumstances’ does not include ability to pay…”

HMRC has become used to thinking that penalties are (so) automatic (that they get issued by computer) and mandatory. The political system has stripped HMRC of common sense. The system does not want HMRC to apply common sense. It wants HMRC to apply rules.

(I am aware that I have personified "the system". I am aware that that is lazy. But it's Friday and I'm tired. Good weekend all.)

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By Justin Bryant
13th Feb 2019 17:24

Actually, on reflection, HMRC were of course quite right to chase this individual for these fines etc. and I find the judge's criticism completely OTT when it can be seen from the link below that vital publicly financed projects do not come cheap and have to be funded somehow.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-47228698

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By lionofludesch
13th Feb 2019 17:32

Yes - but that was "overseen" by a halfwit.

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By Tornado
14th Feb 2019 00:13

"HMRC's decision to pursue Mr Pokorowski for penalties in the circumstances of this appeal is a scandal. For HMRC to expect a homeless person to keep HMRC up-to-date with their address is ridiculous – and just needs to be stated to show its absurdity."

Absurd actions by an absurd organisation, and WE pay for all of this.

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By lionofludesch
14th Feb 2019 08:31

What ?

Park benches don't have wifi any more ??

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By Justin Bryant
29th Mar 2019 19:27

See also:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/tax/return/homeless-man-fined-hmrc-filing-ta...

https://www.accountancydaily.co/hmrc-fines-homeless-man-ps1600-filing-ta...

https://www.accountancydaily.co/cch_uk/cln/news_008054_pokorowski

I'm glad to see other judges taking a sensible approach where HMRC exploit mentally ill people. See para 69 here:

http://www.bailii.org/uk/cases/UKFTT/TC/2019/TC06958.html

And para 61 et seq here:

http://financeandtax.decisions.tribunals.gov.uk//judgmentfiles/j11017/TC...

However, this judge had no sympathy it seems in a case of a depressed person unable to appeal in time causing him a £3.5m bankruptcy problem:

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/5c73ff16e5274a0ec3c09a50/...

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By Dib
14th Feb 2019 13:35

Just waiting for HMRC to seek leave to appeal...

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By lesley.barnes
28th Feb 2019 15:31

Just a quick update we sent a letter to HMRC and my client has now been successful in claiming exception circumstances and has had all his tax returns cancelled.

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By Tax Dragon
28th Feb 2019 21:44

Now that there is authority (the case Justin cited) so to do, we see HMRC can show common sense and decency.

That was my point above.

Thanks for sharing and well done too.

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