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So I am starting to get a flood of the MTD for Vat letters coming to me from clients now.

However on one clients letter it states that whilst most businesses will start from 01.04.2019 this client will not have to until 01.10.2019.

Not sure why this is, as the October date does not tie in with year ends so not sure why they have an extra 6 months to comply, when all my other clients have to from 01.04.2019.

So not only do we have to sort this nonsense out it also seems there is a staggered date for some people for no particular reason.

And once again you end looking stupid when you client says "you said we had to do this from April when this letter states October"

Who is in charge of this farce.

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By MJShone
04th Jan 2019 15:38

Presumably your client isn't one of the "exceptions" eg member of a VAT group?

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to MJShone
04th Jan 2019 16:02

No VAT group been registered for 5 years, normal quarterly returns.

The letter does not say anything useful in it like why they have been given this 6 month reprieve.

Its a good job most clients understand that HMRC are not very good at this type of thing.

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04th Jan 2019 15:52

Annual accounting, happen ?

I'm baffled how you've only just come to see that this hasn't been done very well.

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to lionofludesch
04th Jan 2019 16:03

I like to give people a second chance.

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to Glennzy
04th Jan 2019 16:32

You've only noticed one mistake ?

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04th Jan 2019 15:52

Glennzy wrote:

Who is in charge of this farce.

At the risk of putting your blood pressure through the roof:

https://www.accountingweb.co.uk/tax/hmrc-policy/hmrc-chief-exec-knighted...

You really could not make it up.

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to Accountant A
04th Jan 2019 16:01

I did see that earlier, but I was more annoyed that Nick Forbes head of Newcastle Council for some reason has picked up a CBE.

I also see that Nick Clegg somehow is also a Knight for raising the profile of weasels it seems.

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to Glennzy
04th Jan 2019 17:26

It’s a bit harsh on the UK community of weasels linking them to Nick Clegg isn’t it?

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to Accountant A
04th Jan 2019 22:41

Un(*******) believable. But, completely follows a pattern - Homer etc!
You really couldn’t make this **** up, could you?

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04th Jan 2019 16:24

Have they accidentally got a trade class that shows them as a Local Authority / Public Body?

Bare in mind that they don't actually have to do that kind of thing they just need to have been allocated that trade class. I did see one trader that had been issued with a trade class that showed them involved in Space Travel and Exploration, despite them being some kind of small travel operator in rural Suffolk

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to spidersong
04th Jan 2019 16:33

Not necessarily exclusive...

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to spidersong
04th Jan 2019 16:47

Exact wording is "Our records show this would usually apply to you, however you are part of a small number of customers that do not need to start using MTD until 01.10.2019."

Maybe they have been entered into some sort of lucky dip.

Ironically they have been submitting directly from their own accounts software for over 12 months anyway.

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04th Jan 2019 16:56

This is the list of deferrals:

trusts,
‘not for profit’ organisations that are not set up as a company,
VAT divisions,
VAT groups,
those public sector entities required to provide additional information on their VAT return (Government departments, NHS Trusts),
local authorities,
public corporations,
traders based overseas,
those required to make payments on account and
annual accounting scheme users
The deferral will apply to around 3.5% of mandated customers

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04th Jan 2019 17:03

… a flood of applications for the Annual Accounting scheme!

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to leshoward
04th Jan 2019 17:17

I've done a few.

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to lionofludesch
04th Jan 2019 17:25

But then again, too few to mention.

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to DJKL
04th Jan 2019 17:36

Too late. I've mentioned it.

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to lionofludesch
04th Jan 2019 23:04

So you did it your way.

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to DJKL
05th Jan 2019 08:45

[chuckle]

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04th Jan 2019 18:17

Posted in error.

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04th Jan 2019 18:36

sign up for the next MTD webinar (later this month):
You can post 'questions' in real time and see HMRC answers in real time on screen as well as HMRC answers to other participants questions
Bombard the webinar with comments about how rubbish MTD is - it won't be answered or even put on screen but it does send a message
Better than flogging yourself with a birch twig.....

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By Matrix
05th Jan 2019 08:54

Only one of my clients has (told me that they have) received the letter.

They submit through the HMRC portal, has anyone received letters for clients that use third party software? I haven’t received one for my business.

Also anyone decided how much they will charge for the transition?

I am not going to move clients until the March VAT returns have been filed but am planning on giving them the option of setting up an HMRC account themselves or paying me a nominal fee to do it for them.

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to Matrix
05th Jan 2019 11:51

I don't think the question as to what software people currently use is relevant to whether or not they are sent a letter.

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