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Just a quick notification of what HMRC are currently doing with VAT and it now scares me what is going to happen with MTD on self assessment. I have been attempting to submit VAT returns on my agent's account and it was logging me out. After a long wait got through to HMRC to find out that they've transferred several clients, even a nil return client, onto the MTD system without informing me or noting the fact against the client's VAT information. It is horrendous to say the least.

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By dl100tr
07th Jun 2021 17:51

Yes, me too! When did this happen?

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By SXGuy
07th Jun 2021 17:56

There have been a number of posts on the issue, and I believe hmrc did say they were switching people over from the legacy api to the new one.

Its only been know for a few months now.

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By lionofludesch
07th Jun 2021 18:16

Everybody will be on the new system once they've got round to it.

They started after 8th April 2021.

It was well advertised on here (though not by HMRC).

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By Hugo Fair
07th Jun 2021 19:12

"they've transferred several clients, even a nil return client, onto the MTD system without informing me"

Not excusing the appalling behaviour (and attitude) of HMRC on this, but just to make it clear ... moving a client "onto the MTD system" does NOT mean the client is immediately due to make MTD returns.
It means the client's account/records have been transferred onto HMRC's new database - which will then make it easier (for HMRC anyway) when the client DOES migrate to MTD ... but you can still file the 'old way' until that happens.

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By Richard Cliff
07th Jun 2021 20:31

Hugo Fair wrote:
It means the client's account/records have been transferred onto HMRC's new database - which will then make it easier (for HMRC anyway) when the client DOES migrate to MTD ... but you can still file the 'old way' until that happens.


When we found this out on the login system, we clicked in to submit latest return and it checked us out of agent account.
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By lionofludesch
07th Jun 2021 20:43

Richard Cliff wrote:

Hugo Fair wrote: It means the client's account/records have been transferred onto HMRC's new database - which will then make it easier (for HMRC anyway) when the client DOES migrate to MTD ... but you can still file the 'old way' until that happens.

When we found this out on the login system, we clicked in to submit latest return and it checked us out of agent account.

Then it's happened.

Get used to it. There's no going back now.

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By janelm
08th Jun 2021 08:52

Once you hit that step and it logged you out, you have to login with (or setup if you don't have) a separate "agent services for vat" account, the new fangled MTD agent account. Then there is an option to look at non-MTD VAT clients, enter vat number of client and you eventually find a "submit vat return" button. This allows you to enter return numbers manually as usual for non MTD clients, but through your ASA account with a slightly different interface.

For the first week of June this screen said "no returns to file" for me and I wasted time getting nowhere with HMRC in webchat, but finally yesterday the return for the quarter ending 31st May suddenly appeared on this screen and I have now filed it.

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By bernard michael
08th Jun 2021 09:17

Happened also to me on 10th April but I was still able to file a non MTD Vat return by following the procedure outlined in an earler posting

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By bernard michael
08th Jun 2021 09:16

Duplicated

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