New employer refuses to pay ACA subcription fees

Help in arguments to convince my new employer to pay my ACA and CTA membership fees

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I recently moved jobs and i am the most senior finance manager in the location i am. All other junior staff's ACCA/ACA subscriptions are paid for by the company.ACCA fees for the person i replaced was paid by the company.

I am also the only tax-qualified person (CTA) in the company and i look after the tax side of things for all the UK companies.

I recently paid my subscription fees and I thought I would simply submit a claim form to my boss, but he is adamant that my contract does not explicitly mention that the company should meet the bill - which is fair enough.  I am partly to blame as  I never checked such details in the contract as all the companies I worked for would pay for membership and CPDs, especially for senior managers - I know the devil is in the details!

My boss can a dk but I really enjoy my job. I am planning to write a detailed email explaining why the company should pay and it is to the company's benefit. Any ideas of what to say....please don't be harsh on me.  

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By Calculatorboy
28th Jan 2022 21:12

I think he's being obtuse.. because other subs are paid, doesn't seem balanced at all

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By SouthCoastAcc
28th Jan 2022 21:32

i wouldnt push too hard as he will probably make you pay for it some other way

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By David Ex
28th Jan 2022 22:49

If it’s a group of companies of any size, I’m surprised there isn’t an HR policy covering the point.

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By williams lester accountants
29th Jan 2022 06:01

If you agreed a contract which didn’t include this, then I think you are done for. Your boss will probably argue that your salary covers all such items.

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By thestudyman
29th Jan 2022 08:46

Well it does not seem fair other employees' subscriptions are paid but not the OP?

I also don't understand why they would not offer to pay for it, seeing as the professional subscription is tax deductible, like the others. That could be one reason the OP can write in their email, as well as to demonstrate that they enjoy working for the company and want to continue their professional development with the company. Potentially, replacement benefits can be negotiated such as courses, extra holidays etc...

It might not be in their contract for the payment of the subscription, but should still ask or put forward a case.

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By bernard michael
29th Jan 2022 09:39

Does your salary reflect the fact that you're paying the subs when compared to the others who have them paid ??
If you're the last one in perhaps company policy changed
You need to check your contract. However you could have a word with the others to see if their contracts include the payment. If it doesn't and they are being paid then you have a valid argument for unfair discrimination. However I wouldn't push it for a relatively small amount of money as retribution would certainly ensue either conscious or hidden

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By rmillaree
29th Jan 2022 11:09

Is it not simplest to exact your revenge at next annual pay review?

Personally my opinion was its up to you to ask so you are fully to blame here ,(not that there is any blame - i mean more that there are no others to blame) why should you expect to be given any freebie in any job - if you expect it make sure you confirm it if you want to lay later blame on someone else if you dont get it - particularly if your pay is higher than the rest - its not illogical they support the lowly paid (part qualified?) juniors but not the highly paid fully qualified bods who are able to look after themselves and get paid "accordingly"

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By I'msorryIhaven'taclue
29th Jan 2022 11:23

You say all other junior staff have their subs paid or reimbursed, but you're evidently not junior staff yourself.

Might it be the case that these junior staff are all having their subs covered by virtue of their still being in training, say as part of a study package? Did your predecessor study whilst with the firm (and perhaps qualify during his tenure, so that having his subs covered became a remnant of his study package)?

Go through your employment contract (in combination with the letter offering you employment) with a toothcomb. Not for any clause regarding subs - you've already said the contract is silent regarding that matter - but for any other clause (or the indeed the omission of any other clause - that might work in your favour. Then use that as a lever.

For example, what does your contract state regarding overtime, rest breaks, lunch breaks, time spent at a screen, interdependence with other documents such as staff procedural handbook or workplace policies? Are you missing any mandatory training, such as eg DPA policy induction or MLR courses? If so, you might just be able to kill two birds by getting some CPD under your belt at your employer's expense.

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By Paul Crowley
29th Jan 2022 17:04

What was agreed at interview and job offer has I assume been complied with
If not then Op should complain
Otherwise accept what has been agreed

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By Tosie
31st Jan 2022 11:24

If nothing agreed I would leave it until next year by which time you will have convinced your new employer that you are worth keeping. You are storing up resentments before the company knows your value.

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By I'msorryIhaven'taclue
31st Jan 2022 11:44

Or is the company taking advantage of his good nature and its superior bargaining position?

I vote work to rule. Minimal acceptable performance, at least until you know whether not paying your fees is the thin end of a larger wedge. Test the waters by asking to book your holidays for this year, and you'll soon know what's par for the course.

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By accountaholic
31st Jan 2022 13:17

I agree with Tosie.

1. It's not in the contract so no legal obligation for your employer to pay.
2. You've asked and explicitly been told no.

Leave it for next year's renewal, or possibly when one of the other staff's renewal goes through, but wait until you are in a stronger position to show your value to the firm.

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By carnmores
31st Jan 2022 21:01

Why should they your qualification is personal to you. My goodness the world has changed

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By tom123
01st Feb 2022 08:08

In a similar fashion, I have always paid for my own training (CIMA, ATT) and taken exams in holidays.

That way, my success or otherwise, was nothing to do with my employer. I certainly couldn't get picked up in appraisal for failing an exam etc.

I'm public sector now, and don't get these fees paid. For me it is a cost of being at work, like petrol to drive in, and suits to wear.

I do believe in Karma a bit though. Could be that, in the long term, the duffers stick around for their £400 pa, and the good staff move on.

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By vstrad
03rd Feb 2022 12:43

Perhaps your boss is giving you a subtle hint about the importance of attention to detail in a job such as yours.

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By PChapman
03rd Feb 2022 14:59

Just point out the first line of your post!
IE all others are being paid and it's industry norm

You may want to pick you moment when to bring it up though

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By djokhoo
03rd Feb 2022 15:27

Dear Sir,
You have been given an opportunity to lead a team of juniors and develop them into world resources. Take the responsible step and prove yourself capable of doing the job.
Fees are secondary, it is a chance to be self responsible. We all pass exam and become qualified but there are times when the world cannot step forward and pay our way, we must take responsiblity for ourselves. We must become mentors to others rather than becoming argumentative and having little value.
It possible that your company may not be in a position to pay fees for everyone, maybe they are also facing the economic downfall as a result of the pandemic.
Look, the age has changed since 2012, we have entered a new age and we must adjust to suit it. Businesses are collapsing all over the world and you must be grateful that you still have a livelihood, you can still have earnings to put food on the table.
Don't argue over such a small incident. Your boss already said he couldn't , so move on and don't call him names.
We all have to learn to be grateful for what we have now.
We all have to learn the 4S, self respect, self confidence, self determination and self sacrifice if we to survive in this new age.
Good luck to you in your new position, I hope you become a shining star in the position where everyone can look up at you in the future and learn by the example that you will set.

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By More unearned luck
03rd Feb 2022 15:43

It's only money.

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By jnw010
08th Feb 2022 17:08

You state that your predecessor had fees reimbursed as do all other employees. That would suggest that it is generally company policy to reimburse professional fees. The only reason I can imagine your boss declining yours is if your CTA fees are significantly higher than standard ACCA fees (which I think they are) and he's made a knee jerk decision. It's a clear early warning sign that you're not appreciated or your boss is a moron. Either way, it's not a good thing.

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