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New SEISS online tool from HMRC

New SEISS online tool from HMRC to use to check and to register contact details

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HMRC has added a new online tool this morning for people to check if they are potentially able to make a claim under the self-employment income support scheme
https://www.tax.service.gov.uk/self-employment-support/enter-unique-taxp...

Agents can check use it to check if a client would be potentially able to claim though can't make the claim themselves.

For clients:
You need to first enter your UTR number and then your national insurance number.

The tool will then say if you are potentially able to make the claim though does not say how much.

You can then register your interest in making the claim by supplying them with your contact details. That is done via the Government Gateway route. If you've already got a Government Gateway ID  and password log in and presumably it will then ask for contact details.

If you don't, then you'll need to create one and there's a link to do that,

You will be able to make the claim as from mid-day on the 15th.

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By andrew1211
04th May 2020 09:02

Crazy that agents cannot do directly.

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By bernard michael
04th May 2020 09:05

I thought HMRC was going to contact eligible people see below

The online service you’ll use to claim is not available yet. HMRC will aim to contact you by mid-May 2020 if you’re eligible, to invite you to claim using the GOV.UK online service. Payment will be made by early June 2020 if your claim is approved.

Or is this bad wording ??

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By Laurence52
04th May 2020 09:12

bernard michael wrote:

I thought HMRC was going to contact eligible people see below

The online service you’ll use to claim is not available yet. HMRC will aim to contact you by mid-May 2020 if you’re eligible, to invite you to claim using the GOV.UK online service. Payment will be made by early June 2020 if your claim is approved.

Or is this bad wording ??

I assume that HMRC will be writing to people mid-May to say how much grant and how to apply. The online tool would be for people to be able to be contacted as soon as the scheme is launched and for them to make a claim, possibly before getting the letter. A caution though as there could be scammers sending phishing emails.

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By K81
04th May 2020 09:22

Agents can't make the claim?

I have a fair few self-employed subbies who do not own computers, they are labourers who get CIS repayments each year & will be expecting us to make the claim for them. This could get interesting!

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By andrew1211
04th May 2020 09:34

There will be another way I am sure albeit probably slower or hanging on the phone to HMRC. We will see.....

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By andrew1211
04th May 2020 09:23

Checked and it now says 8am on the 14th for the one I did. Unless they are being staggered?

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By RedFive
04th May 2020 11:14

I've checked a husband and wife partenership. One can claim on 13th, the other the 16th.

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By andrew1211
04th May 2020 11:17

Interesting thanks.

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By jon_griffey
04th May 2020 10:33

It's probably a blessing in disguise that agents can't do it. It would involve another round of Covid related work which may not be recoverable. I understand that some clients are not computer literate, but for most of them it will be surprising how quickly they learn if there is free money on offer.

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By Cheshire
04th May 2020 11:06

Its all a cunning plan to get everyone online.

Plus anoterh cunning plan to get folk to ditch using their accountants.

Then HMRC can make millions from penalties and fines.

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By bernard michael
04th May 2020 11:12

This mornings latest HMRC move to make accountants be involved:-

This week we will start contacting people who may be eligible for the new Self-Employment Income Support Scheme.

If they are eligible, this scheme will allow them to claim a taxable grant worth 80% of their trading profits up to a maximum of £7,500.

The process is quick and easy for your clients to follow, but we are asking for your help in guiding them through the eligibility criteria and the process for checking and claiming.

Advising clients

You can play an important role in supporting your clients by helping them get ready to claim, by:

talking them through why they may / may not be eligible
helping them to find the details they need
using the online eligibility checker on their behalf (or supporting them to use it themselves).
Under the rules of the scheme, not every self-employed person will be able to claim, so we’d value your support in helping them understand this. Your client must complete the claim themselves.

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By andrew1211
04th May 2020 11:18

Where is this please?

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By bernard michael
04th May 2020 11:21

Came by E-Mail

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By bernard michael
04th May 2020 11:28

More problems for us
Once you've entered the UTR and NI numbers it asks for contact details BUT it then says
"You need to use Government Gateway to sign in and add your contact details.

If you do not have an existing Government Gateway user ID and password you should create them now."

Expect the phones to ring

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By ronwelsh
04th May 2020 11:31

It beggars belief that HMRC prevents the people whom are in the best possible position to submit the self employed SEISS claims.

If as an accountant you delude yourself that work such as this is "not billable" then good luck with speaking to each and every individual client who WILL get stuck in a matter of minutes trying to do it themselves, and who WILL ring you asking for the solutions.

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By Laurence52
04th May 2020 14:32

HMRC have amended their webpage on the scheme to say:
The online service will be available from 13 May 2020. If you’re eligible, we will tell you the date you can make your claim from. If your claim is approved you’ll receive your payment within 6 working days.

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By SXGuy
04th May 2020 14:51

It appears the date differs for some. I've had clients say it says 15th and 14th. Now you say 13th. Maybe they are staggering claims?

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By Wanderer
04th May 2020 14:57

If you try to follow the claim through, using Agent's log in details you get:-
https://www.tax.service.gov.uk/self-employment-support/account/agent-uns...

gov.uk wrote:
You cannot use this service
Agents cannot make a claim through this scheme on behalf of their client.

You should tell your clients that they will need to make the claim themselves.

so, all as envisaged.
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By andrew1211
04th May 2020 15:09

Envisaged. And stupid....

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