No HMRC response to requests for SEISS review

Should I query via agent helpline or is there a specific SEISS number?

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I made a request for SEISS review on behalf of a client on 5 May and the client made a request herself on 3 June, neither of us has received any response other than the electronic receipt of the requests.  

Is there any point in trying to chase up by phone? If so which number?

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By Tim Vane
03rd Jul 2020 14:20

What is to review? The rules are surely black and white so presumably HMRC have dropped the priority for reviews since they have no discretion to divert from the treasury order.

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By Paul Crowley
03rd Jul 2020 14:25

Agree.
Pointless to make any attempt is my understanding

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By Paul Crowley
03rd Jul 2020 14:23

I would love to know how many submitted to HMRC to date. And whether any have been successful.

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By nutwood
03rd Jul 2020 17:30

In the three year period there were two sources of profit, a sole trader and a partnership half share. The sole trader income stops a few months into 2016/17 and, as far as I can see the only reason that there is considered to be no claim available is if the whole of the overlap relief is treated as a loss in that year, ignoring the terminal loss carry back.

HMRC guidance says that losses brought forward from previous years will be ignored - but is completely silent on overlap relief.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/how-hmrc-works-out-total-income-and-trading-...

I'm not really sure whether overlap relief is even a loss really, it's income she was taxed twice on 20 odd years ago.

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By fawltybasil2575
03rd Jul 2020 18:36

@ nutwood (OP).

Whilst I , and others, could speculate as to the specific reason for the SEISS rejection, I believe that it would be more appropriate if you would kindly indicate ALL the taxable income figures, for all three years, per the Personal Tax Computations, ie for:-

(i) Self-employment profits.
(ii) Share of Partnership profits.
(iii) Other income.
(iv) Losses.

Noting your also indicating that the figures will have been impacted by (a) Overlap Relief and (b) Terminal Loss relief, please indicate those figures (of course also advising to which tax year, and to which source of income, those reliefs relate).

This is one area where, from my experience, HMRC's software has, in nearly all cases, provided the correct answer; but nonetheless one of course needs to be satisfied that HMRC are correct.

Basil.

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By mumpin
03rd Jul 2020 18:49

I dont think its all as clear cut as posters on her maintain: I'm a small sole practitioner but I have had two SEISS claims rejected incorrectly.
First one went bankrupt in 17/18 and got a new UTR in 18/19 and should qualify for SEISS on the basis of his 18/19 return but HMRC wont discuss and wont reply to appeal.
Second case, the tax payer has large losses in 2 of the three years capped at £50k but he still qualifies under strict reading of the legislation. But HMRC algorithm denies his eligibility. HMRC refuse to discuss.

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By nutwood
13th Jul 2020 11:10

Apologies for not coming back with further information but farm/sheep tasks intervened.

Had a call from the client this morning. She was away from home last week as her mother in law had died, but on Saturday she had a letter from HMRC saying they had made a mistake and that her claim was valid. As the deadline for making the claim is today, the letter told her to phone in with her bank details and the claim would be paid.

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