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A (non-accountant) trader started a couple of threads in here. Interesting conversations developed. Some learning was gained (not just by the OP and me). The trader edited his/her comments to .s. The threads have now been deleted altogether.

Why?

The OP had already .ed their comments. All the deletions achieve is removing the (interesting) replies.

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Lone Wolf
By Lone_Wolf
11th Mar 2020 14:19

Quite poor actually as the VAT query in particular was quite interesting. Surely Sift could reinstate the query and replies in these situations.

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By Tax Dragon
11th Mar 2020 14:40

They could swap them for these two: https://www.accountingweb.co.uk/any-answers/withdraw-from-private-pension and the thread referred to therein.

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Lone Wolf
By Lone_Wolf
11th Mar 2020 15:35

You mean to say you don't think that is a genuine accountant? Whatever makes you think that?

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Hallerud at Easter
By DJKL
11th Mar 2020 15:41

A lack of cynicism might be a clue, the genuine articles tend to be world weary and a bit scuffed around the edges

Accountants are like antiques, it is all in the condition and the provenance.

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Lone Wolf
By Lone_Wolf
11th Mar 2020 17:05

At what point in your career do you feel it is acceptable to become world weary?

I've not even hit 30 and feel that I could be described as world-weary. God knows what another 30+ years in this profession will do to me :o

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Hallerud at Easter
By DJKL
11th Mar 2020 17:51

I managed up to about 50 with a sunny disposition and a positive mental attitude, I then moved into a sod it mood with clients.

I think for me part of it was when clients stopped being financially important to me, when mortgage could be cleared anytime I really wanted and when I sort of regained the financial independence I had enjoyed up to age 25 (no house, no mortgage, no pensions, no wife, no kids- though hold on the kids, they are even now the gift that still costs, I am hiring half a castle later this year with my son's intended's parents paying for the other half))

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By Tax Dragon
11th May 2020 08:55

It keeps happening.

Why does Sift do this??

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By Matrix
11th May 2020 09:40

The motorcycle one? He was beyond rude and personal.

If AWeb wants these folk on here then they should moderate the boards at the weekend.

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By Tax Dragon
11th May 2020 09:58

Completely agree, but the fact is that they give the OP the last word by complying with the OP's request to remove the thread. My question isn't about the rights or wrongs of what is said and the lack of moderation (though those are good questions of themselves) - it is simply why does Sift (apparently) oblige the wishes of OPs and ignore those of respondents? This forum is valuable because of RESPONSES, more than it is because of questions. Or am I wrong?

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By Cheshire
11th May 2020 12:22

To put the matter straight (in part), the OP did not ask for his post to be removed.

I reported him after he made the rude and obnoxious remarks to a few of us, so in this case, in part, Sift did complete the request of a respondent, which was to ban the user.

I did not however request that the post be removed.

Personally I think the post should be left in situ, the poster banned, with the fact that the poster is banned made clear for all to see, against their name. I made this suggestion to Maddy a couple of weeks ago on the back of another such post.

It is clear from past bannings (Portia's being an example) that users can be banned and their posts remain, so I am not sure why moderators couldnt *** out the relevant nastiness or just state 'poster banned due to xyz' on the bottom of the post.

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By Tax Dragon
11th May 2020 12:32

My recollection was that the OP did say he (undoubtedly a he) was happy to get his question removed, so I assumed he had done so. I still make that assumption, in Sift's silence on the matter.

I'm with you though. Closing accounts and deleting threads are two distinct actions. Your suggestion deserves attention.

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By Cheshire
11th May 2020 13:26

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''My recollection was that the OP did say he (undoubtedly a he) was happy to get his question removed, so I assumed he had done so. I still make that assumption, in Sift's silence on the matter''.

Oh I mustve missed that, he didnt seem the type. He certainly couldnt apply logic, I think he was editor for the Daily mail!.

Although Im sure I read someone say that recently - wasnt that the barter man on another thread?

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By Tax Dragon
11th May 2020 15:17

Quite right.

In that case I have less of an issue with Sift taking it down, though I would have preferred it if they hadn't - and IMHO they really should not have removed the VAT threads referred to earlier in this thread.

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By Paul D Utherone
12th May 2020 08:22

.ing is why I have started using the Quote option with Anonymous posters to try to keep the content where an OP.'s their original

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By Tax Dragon
12th May 2020 09:03

You and a few others. Makes no odds though if the whole thread gets removed.

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Richard Hattersley
By Richard Hattersley
12th May 2020 09:34

Hi all,

If it is the thread I am thinking of, I'm afraid there wasn't much left to save. I'm happy for robust debate on the site but I draw the line at name-calling and flinging insults. It wouldn't be fair on the readers that suffered the insults.

However, I will certainly take on board the suggestions mentioned in the thread.

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By Tax Dragon
12th May 2020 09:44

Richard, thank you for acknowledging the issue.

I didn't much care for the motorcycle thread myself and I confess the fire in my belly in that regard was sparked by the notion that you had "supported" the OP by complying with his request to delete the thread. Cheshire has doused those flames for you.

However the embers from the fire caused by removal of the VAT threads a couple of months ago that prompted my OP here still glow. Mixing my metaphors, there is a helluva lot of bathwater in this forum; I don't mind that being chucked, but sometimes the moderations throw out the babies too.

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