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Now that the self assessment deadline is out of the way, here's a fun item of purely academic interest. The rugby season is almost upon us and we played a pre-season friendly on Sunday.

The financial terms were that the host club would retain all the gate takings and said....

"We will pay for your coach transport, feed the players and pay the club a fee of £xxx + vat."

Does anyone think that the host club should've been charged VAT on the value of the coach transport?

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By Truthsayer
02nd Feb 2024 11:19

Yes, assuming you mean the visiting team arranged their own coach transport, and the home team reimbursed it, in which case the reimbursement in just part of the overall fee.

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By I'msorryIhaven'taclue
02nd Feb 2024 11:49

lionofludesch wrote:

"We will pay for your coach transport, feed the players and pay the club a fee of £xxx + vat."

Hmmm... we will pay your disbursements, offer you a cup of coffee, and charge you a fee of £xxx +VAT to carry out your house conveyance.

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By Mr_awol
02nd Feb 2024 12:56

When i have acted for football clubs in the past I'm sure this kind of arrangement was all built into the gate share. Not so much for league games but certainly for FA cup matches.

It's been a while though so may have changed - or i may be misremembering.

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By lionofludesch
02nd Feb 2024 14:33

Mr_awol wrote:

When i have acted for football clubs in the past I'm sure this kind of arrangement was all built into the gate share. Not so much for league games but certainly for FA cup matches.

It's been a while though so may have changed - or i may be misremembering.

Yes, them's the rules for cup-ties. Home club responsible for VAT on the income. then the balance is split 50-50 after deducting expenses such as stewarding, security, bus etc. Away club gets its share as outside the scope for VAT.

But this wasn't a competitive game and the clubs were free to agree their own terms. Hence the flat fee + VAT.

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