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Why can't HMRC and WRA give a clue what you will need to finish an online form that you can't save and you get no clues re the next part until you progress, and then they throw a gotcha in the way meaning you have to abort and start again having gotten the new information required. PITA.

 

And why does Scotland get its own tag on AWeb but Wales doesn't?

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the sea otter
By memyself-eye
26th Apr 2022 11:12

I agree - try signing up for a personal tax account.
Still, all will be well with MTDITSA

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paddle steamer
By DJKL
26th Apr 2022 11:26

My bugbear is CIS returns.

Whilst you can print a summary of which contractors paid if you tick the box indicating no returns expected to be needed for six months it appears to be impossible (well I have not worked it out) to download a copy of the return that confirms you ticked the six month box.

(If anyone does know how to get such a copy online I would be grateful, I am still a paper person (age) and like proofs in case I get into a fight with HMRC (which has been known to happen))

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By rmillaree
26th Apr 2022 12:39

CIS arghhhhhhhhhh - dont ever do gross status application online form without saving info on excel as you go i learned that the hard way.

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By Duggimon
26th Apr 2022 11:52

SteveHa wrote:

And why does Scotland get its own tag on AWeb but Wales doesn't?

Scotland gets it's own tax rules, you should petition to have the "England" tag renamed "England & Wales".

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By SteveHa
26th Apr 2022 12:07

Wales has devolved taxes, too.

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By DJKL
26th Apr 2022 12:27

I will more than happily give up our tag in exchange for my basic rate band being the same as for those in England and Nicky ceasing to grab an extra 1% tax from me.

We do of course also have a different legal system which can have a bearing on questions on Accounting Web.

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By lionofludesch
26th Apr 2022 13:51

Duggimon wrote:

SteveHa wrote:

And why does Scotland get its own tag on AWeb but Wales doesn't?

Scotland gets it's own tax rules, you should petition to have the "England" tag renamed "England & Wales".

What about Northern Ireland?

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By SteveHa
27th Apr 2022 10:36

I will happily concede that NI should have its own tag, too.

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By D V Fields
26th Apr 2022 12:35

It is because the programmers are incompetent. An extra line or two of coding to save the data, post a message and recall the saved data is beyond their skill set. Alas the programmers probably will not be reading this.

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By ireallyshouldknowthisbut
26th Apr 2022 14:05

I think its more down to bad specifications. HMRC have virtually no talent in this regard, the developers tend to build the minimum spec given as its all outsourced and then wrapped in a million layers of upsell so the developer in Russia or somewhere knocks it out in a day for £20, and by the time HMRC pay for it its £50,000 per form (or probably more) when its gone through many layers of resell back up the chain.

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By DJKL
26th Apr 2022 14:13

Are you sure- the Scottish Government takes a great deal of interest in who their contractors are (Lots of checks and Official Secrets Act etc gets invoked) and where they are operating from. Yes there are often chains of contractors but they do get looked at.

Re specs I understand the catch often with governments is they are very poor at being clear regarding what they actually want and how they want it to operate, especially joined/linked with other systems they already have.

Going rate more seems to be £500-£600 a day (my son spends most of his time contracting for some branch or other of HMG or SG.)

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By D V Fields
26th Apr 2022 19:44

I suspect any specification was sufficiently silent on the point. Whilst I cannot disagree with you any good programmer should be working to minimum standards and be highlighting such deficiencies. The programming profession should be no different to ours. Add in the fact that the quality control team should pick up on such poor user experiences and you can only despair that such things ever get released.

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Tom Herbert
By Tom Herbert
27th Apr 2022 16:44

My sincere apologies to @SteveHa - and the great nation of Wales. When I get a moment I'll create a Wales tag, I'm sure we've got enough content to populate it.

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