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By atleastisoundknowledgable...
09th May 2021 19:40

Anyone know where I can watch the big fight?

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By Hugo Fair
09th May 2021 20:28

According to the AU (Artificial Unintelligence) driving this site, it's available via most of the 'trending' topics ... 'cos obviously it's what all accountants live for.

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By Tax Dragon
10th May 2021 06:34

Despite her best efforts, Mum never did succeed in teaching me English very well. As you have no doubt noticed. There must be a name for expressions such as "Artificial Unintelligence". What is that name?

Hubby was making a raised vegetable garden yesterday. We were two planks short. (I think he's made it bigger than intended - so we'll not have enough filling anyway.)

Is unintelligence ever artificial? If so is it like false modesty?

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By Arthur Putey
10th May 2021 13:45

Having watched some IPL cricket I'm still struggling with "Unacademy"

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By Hugo Fair
10th May 2021 13:56

Well AU is I guess an antonym of AI, but I don't think that's what you meant. There is something a little more subtle going on in the juxtaposition of the two words, and the way in which they deliberately clash with what the reader expects after the first word. I agree that there ought to be a name for such an expression, but have to confess to it being outside the capacity of my memory banks this morning.

Also although I always like to think that the results of my occasional playing with words are original, it is far more likely that I've seen them somewhere else in the past and ferreted them away for potential (albeit random) use in the future.
In this case, I see that there was a book with the title Artificial Unintelligence published only a few years ago - with the telling sub-title "How computers misunderstand the world"!

Oh and don't blame your mother (unnecessarily at that). I've never been taught English (let alone grammar or punctuation) ... I simply starting reading on arrival in this country at the age of 6 and never stopped. Eventually some of it sticks!

BTW do you think HMRC are responsible for you being two planks short ... they may have misread it as two short planks and felt they should be re-united with all the other "thick as .." that they employ in many support roles?

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By Tax Dragon
10th May 2021 14:37

An antonym of 'artificial' is 'genuine'. So the opposite of 'artificial intelligence' ought to be 'genuine unintelligence'. Genuine unintelligence is all around us. Artificial unintelligence may not really exist. But it's not an oxymoron. I feel like it must be something. I just don't know what. (My ignorance is also genuine. Despite what Justin says.)

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By Hugo Fair
10th May 2021 16:10

You are entering the realms where a hybrid philologist/linguist may be necessary to adjudicate. There are many meanings of artificial, and hence many different antonyms for it.

I lean towards 'artificial' as indicating creation by human intervention ... which of course makes a mockery of most situations where the AI label is applied. All too often a computer system in which human hands and minds are only too visible is referred to as an example of AI, whereas we only begin to glimpse true AI where the system is left alone (unencumbered by humans) to develop its own methods and rules of learning ... in ways that often, even when 'working', remain entirely opaque to software engineers!

But reverting to your main point or non-explicit question, I'm not sure how an antonym applies to a pair of words (especially where one is an adjective and the other a noun). I've a feeling that there's a rule somewhere for that circumstance - a bit like those for operands & operators in maths - so that the synonym for very tall is not slightly short, but very short?

Anyway it'll keep me busy (without boring other readers here) for a while ... and for what it's worth, I've always worn my badge of ignorance with pride - it merely means one recognises that there's still more to learn (thank goodness).

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By Tax Dragon
10th May 2021 16:40

Aren't 'tall' and 'short' themselves adjectives? Maybe nouns don't have true antonyms. So maybe the best description for your lightness of touch with 'artificial unintelligence' is 'joke'. I kind of wish I'd stuck with my original proposed reply (also intended as a joke) about the unintelligence here being very real. Trouble is, though that's funnier (because more direct) than the laboured comment I ended up making, it's also more offensive (because more direct). Probably. Though I am aware that many take offence at me/my comments, seldom do I actually intend to offend.

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By Hugo Fair
10th May 2021 17:50

Touché. I strove too hard for my example of a 'double antonym' ... and ended up with something that undermined my point!
Anyway, I appreciate a bit of levity (as you may have noticed from time to time). But, unfortunately a dry sense of humour (with spots of verbosity) doesn't always translate well when committed to 'paper' in the virtual world ... in both directions.
I'm not always sure (without a face to study) when a joke is intended - and, like you, go to inordinate (if sometimes ineffectual) lengths to avoid giving offence.
Which is of course why the historical interventions of Mr Price so annoyed me!

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By Tax Dragon
10th May 2021 14:41

Btw, I haven't noticed anything different. Was the refresh a dream?

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By Arthur Putey
10th May 2021 16:48

Yes, Bobby Ewing is alive.

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By Tax Dragon
10th May 2021 17:15

The difference between your jokes and mine is that I can generally work yours out with the help of a search engine. I often can't work mine out at all when I read them back a week later.

Apparently, folks, to save you the bother... Bobby Ewing was a character in an American television series called Dallas. Bobby died in 1985 but was alive again in 1986. Bobby's accident, his death and all but the final scene of the 1985/86 season turned out to be a dream of Bobby's fiancée and ex-wife, Pamela. No not Gavin's mum, there was another one, by the look of it.

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By Arthur Putey
11th May 2021 08:53

Spoiler.

By the way, is there such a thing as a deconym, and how do you distinguish it from an antonym?

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By Hugo Fair
11th May 2021 09:55

It took me a few minutes to realise that you hadn't so much made up a new word ... as invented (or repeated I know not) another in the long line of Ant & Dec jokes!

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By Tax Dragon
10th May 2021 17:39

Tax Dragon wrote:

Btw, I haven't noticed anything different. Was the refresh a dream?

I have spotted a difference. (Maybe.) It looks like when the mods now remove something, it disappears without trace. Previously, didn't the sports spam leave a blank line when removed? Now, there's nada.

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By Arthur Putey
11th May 2021 08:51

It looked different on my laptop, but I'm now wondering whether it was served the mobile version of the site

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