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Overtime for working away

Overtime for working away

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Hi all, 

Just wanted to get a feel for what other firms do; I've been working out of the office at a client's premises, supervising two other team members. The premises are around 90 miles away, so it's an early start and a late finish, and the guys were mentioning that people they've met from other firms (on their courses...etc) are paid overtime... etc when working away. 

What's the general consensus here? How do other firms here look after their employees who have to travel to clients... etc?

Thanks all!

Mike.

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By stratty
14th Aug 2013 12:14

Travel Time

Used to get travel time at a reduced rate when I worked in practice.

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By tom123
14th Aug 2013 12:14

Time off in Lieu

Time off in lieu?

Generally offered only when there is weekend travelling, or excessive extra time. Not for the odd hour here or there.

Also, nothing is offered for the ocassional overnight stay, whilst on training etc. The hotel and meals are paid for, of course.

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By GSPANESER
19th Aug 2013 12:03

Travel plus small cash incentive
My personal experience from when I was in practice (about 10 years ago) was standard mileage allowance, hotel costs to include evening meal with one alcoholic drink, plus £10 per day overnight 'bonus' for a weekday, increasing to £20 per night for weekends.

No overtime/bonus was paid if overnight stay was unnecessary.

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By rjoconnor81
19th Aug 2013 12:23

Nothing

When I was working for one of the larger firms of accountants, we got standard mileage, hotel, meal, £5 incidentals, but got nothing for the extra time (no time in lieu, overtime etc).

 

 

 

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By Mr_awol
16th Jul 2018 23:43

Local travel nothing, over 100 miles or so single time for travel, time and a half or double time for chargeable hours.

Hotel (obviously) and either mileage or car. Cheap breakfast and a sandwich for lunch and a reasonable evening meal plus a pint or two. More if they take clients out whilst on site.

Obviously the fee should accommodate all of the above costs, so really you aren’t the one paying for it - so why be tight?

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By atleastisoundknowledgable...
17th Jul 2018 08:17

When I was a junior who went on away audits, we got the hotel, evening meal & 1 alcoholic drink. No £5/£10 as others have said (the partner said we were not in the office, therefore on holiday so no £. TBH surprised it didn’t come off our holiday allowance!).

We only got TIL if we’d worked on another client in the evening.
Never any paid overtime from that firm.

Now, I pay overtime @ 1.5 if I’ve had people in at the weekend. An hour or so before/after work is considered a give&take thing.

Closer to your situation, I’ve staff who work on-site 9-5. That’s our core hours, so that’s what they’ve worked. I pay travel (obvs) but not travel time.

You say early start & late finish, but that’s just you getting to work for which you’re paid mileage. Assuming they are only doing a normal-ish day ON-SITE, I wouldn’t class it as overtime and would say their friends are v lucky.

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By DJKL
17th Jul 2018 10:22

Unlike the Four Yorkshiremen we did not have it tough during my apprenticeship ,whilst working /staying away from Glasgow (mainly in Stornoway for couple of 2 week stints in a year).

The office paidthe hotel cost direct (County), and I claimed meals (cost within reason), laundry/drycleaning costs allowed and a daily newspaper could also be reclaimed on expenses. I did get overtime, in fact it was encouraged as shortened the hotel stay, but it was only paid for extra hours actually worked at the clients, not for travelling.

I did though work on an audit out at Roseneath which given driving time of nearly 2 hours there and 2 hours back involved leaving Glasgow at 8.000, start at client by 10.00, leave client by 4.00, dropped back southside Glasgow by 6.00. Whilst no overtime claimable we did get paid the travelling time within the hours of 9.00-5.00. Only catch for me was I was living in Edinburgh at the time so to be picked up on the southside of Glasgow at 8.00 involved my getting up at some awful time and getting home to Edinburgh pretty late.

My apprenticeship to 1987 was the last time I ever got paid overtime, since then work has been on an as needed basis, no overtime/time off in lieu, the word "sucker" clearly written on my forehead.

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By thevaliant
17th Jul 2018 11:26

On normal jobs (ie, not away), travel time is not paid, no matter how long it takes. Crash on the M6 and a two hour delay? Your stupid fault for going that way! Why didn't you go via the B roads you moron?

Away jobs, normally very little for travel (if at all).
£20 overnight allowance. £3 lunch allowance.
It was set at that in 1987 (when it basically meant you got all your meals paid for and had £15 spare!).
It hasn't been increased since.

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