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A hairdresser client has an employee returning to work on 9 July.  She normally works Thursday, Friday, Saturday.

So far, the employee has been off for 14 weeks and has had 80% of 14 weeks pay, which seems logical enough.

But her last pay period seems to be from Sunday, 28 June to Wednesday, 8 July, or 11 days.  (Just ignore this June/July split for now; it just clouds things).

Logically, she should get 80% of her week's pay but under HMRC's crazy "every day's a furlough day" policy, she seems to be due to 11 days pay.

Is that correct ?  It's only about £120 but she could make good use of it to be honest.

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By Mr_awol
23rd Jun 2020 16:23

My brain hurts. I'm ready to go home.

Were you expecting her to get more, or less? Some numbers might help. She gets 11 days' worth of furlough pay which presumably is much less than 11 days' actual daily rate pay - and so it should be.

Ive tried to recreate the position based on estimated figures for a hairdresser and I reckon she gets about £50 more this way?

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By PandoraSleeps
23rd Jun 2020 16:35

I'm confused - why is her pay period 11 days? Is it not 2 pay periods of 7 days each, and then a claim period covering all the first week and 4 days' worth of the second?

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By lionofludesch
23rd Jun 2020 16:50

PandoraSleeps wrote:

I'm confused - why is her pay period 11 days? Is it not 2 pay periods of 7 days each, and then a claim period covering all the first week and 4 days' worth of the second?

Strictly speaking, yes. But the outcome is the same.

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By lionofludesch
23rd Jun 2020 16:47

Ach - fair enough.....

I've rounded the numbers a bit but she normally gets £200 a week. Logically she should get £160 a week.

From March to 27 June, that's exactly what she got.

But I reckon she's furloughed not only from Sunday 28th to Saturday 4th (which would give her another logical £160) but also for the next four days, when she doesn't normally work. 11 days pay in all.

So 3 days in June

£200 x 52/12 x 3/30 x 80% = £ 69.33

And 8 days in July

£200 x 52/12 x 8/31 x 80% = £178.92

Or £248.25 instead of the logical £160.00.

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By PandoraSleeps
23rd Jun 2020 17:03

Ahhh I see. Makes sense. I think this is correct, my understanding was that furlough periods begin the day after finishing work, and end the day before starting work. So that means it can cover weekends and other non-working days and give some funny results. I guess it's another peculiarity of the calendar day calculation but I believe you are right.

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By lionofludesch
23rd Jun 2020 17:37

Good. She deserves a break.

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By Mr_awol
24th Jun 2020 11:51

I reckon you are right.

At some point, or with a different return date, she might have got a 'week' which actually covered more than three working days and been short changed - so I guess you win some you lose some.

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By lionofludesch
24th Jun 2020 12:15

I dunno - if she'd returned on Saturday, 4th July, she'd've been due

£200 x 52/12 x 3/30 x 80% £69.33

£200 x 52/12 x 3/31 x 80% £67.10

1 days full pay £66.67

Or £203.10, which is still more than her normal pay.

Weird times indeed.

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