Payroll Software suggestions

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Hi everyone

I would be interested in recommendations for payroll to be used as a bureau.  I am switching from Sage, mainly due to cost, and have been looking at Brightpay and Moneysoft.  Majority of my clients are low numbers but have one of 98 employees.

Would be interested in any feedback on the above two and if they can cope with demands of a larger company such as defining your own pay elements, etc.  I am currently trialing both of these.  If there are any others on the market would be interested to have a look.

Many thanks

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By sawales
04th Apr 2013 10:06

12 Pay

I have used 12 Pay in my bureau in the past, its pretty good and has some good reports.

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By Hudges
04th Apr 2013 10:08

Have a look at 12Pay - http://www.12pay.co.uk/

I've used this and found it very good and usable with good customer support.  Best of all low cost.

Cheers

Hugh

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By mtm0066
04th Apr 2013 10:18

thanks for this, will go and have a look :)

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By DMGbus
04th Apr 2013 13:24

Beware of Pegasus Opera - ££££ (but is it better?)

I am aware of a case where Pegasus Opera is used and it costs a four-figure amount of money to have a year end update procedure applied and add modest capacity / remove ceased former employers records.

The Pegasus Opera year end update method does involve their software engineers visiting users so this naturally adds to costs, whereas other software houses do not seem to need this over-kill of software engineers updating at year end on site.

What is puzzling me is just what essential features has Pegasus Opera got that alternatives (costing a tenth of Pegasus Opera) lack?

Maybe Pegasus Opera remain in business because...

EITHER

Their product is so much better (can anyone enlighten me how it is better?)

OR

They have an unintelligent customer base of mugs who are naive / gluttens for overpaying for IT and software solutions and maybe have the mentality of "A product costing 10% of what Pegasus Opera cannot possibly be adequate for our needs".

 

 

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By mtm0066
04th Apr 2013 13:30

payroll software

Hi

Thankfully it's not Opera I currently use.  I actually really like Sage just hugely overpriced for the bureau I run. 

At the suggestion of some of the others I have been trialling 12 Pay this morning and it is very good.

Thanks again.

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By NDH
04th Apr 2013 14:07

Moneysoft or 12Pay

I use Moneysoft and like it and so do many others i know. 12pay is also meant to be very good so if you go for either Moneysoft of 12Pay you can't go far wrong.

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By BigBadWolf
04th Apr 2013 14:35

Moneysoft

Without a doubt I'd recommend Moneysoft and ... I wouldn't dream of using anything else

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By User deleted
04th Apr 2013 14:42

Moneysoft, moneysoft, moneysoft....

Just buy Moneysoft and be done with it. I've never seen anything other than a glowing review on here for them, it's a fabulous product, the pricing is great, decision made, next question please!

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By enbrightened
04th Apr 2013 15:39

BrightPay

Hi mtm0066,

It's great to hear you are trialling BrightPay.

I'm the BrightPay software developer. BrightPay 13/14 is our third release (after 11/12 and 12/13). We're not as established as other software packages (which is why our name doesn't come up as much!), but we've already grown to around 2000 happy customers so far, and I believe we have a great product.

If you have any BrightPay questions or suggestions, you can contact me on here, or contact our support team (details at www.brightpay.co.uk).

Whatever you end up choosing for your payroll software, I wish you all the best!

Thanks,

Ross Webster
Chief Software Architect
BrightPay

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By nolan8213
19th Feb 2015 00:21

Pension Scheme

Sorry to sound direct.  But how would you compare yourself to IRIS Business payroll. 

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By mtm0066
04th Apr 2013 23:45

payroll software

Hi everyone

Thanks for all your feedback, very helpful and much appreciated :)

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By euanjohn
05th Apr 2013 11:43

Brightpay

I've used Brightpay's bureau product for some years.  For this tax year it didn't have a facility to print out the payment a client had to make to HMRC, which is a bit irritating, but it is very cheap for the functionality, and the few times I've had to use the helpline, I've found them very helpful.

Overall, I would recommend them.

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By User deleted
11th Apr 2013 11:14

Brightpay

I have been using Brightpay since it's inception, having previously used Thesaurus.  I cannot praise the software highly enough, it is the best I have ever used, it is suitable for small and large employers, the printable reports are everything you could ask for.  It is very cost efficient, you do not need specialised payslips, you can print onto standard A4 paper, adding yours or the client's logo if required.  I have only ever needed support twice (which shows how good the software is), each time Ann, who I dealt with, sorted out the problem without making me feel like a total twit (which is what happened when I used Sage,- all their support team seem to be about twelve and very, very clever !)  Buy Brightpay - you will not regret it, I promise !

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By NYB
11th Apr 2013 19:13

Brightpay
Would endorse that. Ann too has helped me & I feel as though I know them. Also responds quickly to emails.

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By nicolalamb
11th Apr 2013 11:38

Brightpay

This is the second year of using Brightpay having switched from Sage for reasons of reducing costs and simplicity of use.  It does everything we need and I would highly recommend it.

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By rizhussain
11th Apr 2013 11:39

You will love it

I would recommend you to go for Moneysoft, as I am in practice and understand the requirement of the accountants. I have used many but this software is doing its job and very good customer service as well.

 

Best of luck with your choice..

 

Riz 

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By mtm0066
11th Apr 2013 11:40

payroll software

Hi everyone, thank you very much for all your advice, it has been very helpful :)

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By Metrobrit
11th Apr 2013 11:45

Moneysoft

Not used Brightpay so cannot comment.

But Moneysoft........... cheap. efficient, never any problems, does everything, never falls over frequent updates, just not a problem

 

It's the Canine's gonads of payroll software.

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Man of Kent
By Kent accountant
11th Apr 2013 11:47

Moneysoft

Fantastic bit of software

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By User deleted
11th Apr 2013 12:32

Brightpay

As a follow up to my previous post, I have just completed my first weekly payroll run for a client and filed the report with HMRC, it went through in under a minute, was acknowledged immediately, although HMRC have yet to put their clocks forward !  Clearly Brightpay works with RTI.  Marvellous.

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By Healthpay
11th Apr 2013 12:48

+1 for Moneysoft

This is my 10th year of using Moneysoft as a bureau, and I wouldn't consider anything else. Facilities and support are superb, and the pricing is negligible!

Last year we went into RTI early, and by the end of the year we had 51 clients in RTI with no old style year-end left to do. Once again, Moneysoft delivered, on time and effective.

And in a previous life I used to sell Sage..........

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By taxinfo
11th Apr 2013 13:51

and another for Moneysoft

Healthpay wrote:
in a previous life I used to sell Sage..........
Poor you. Bet you're glad you got out, eh?

We used TAS for accounts preparation, bookkeeping and payroll. Probably would have stuck with it but, now they are part of SAGE, they dropped payroll. They "offered" us - and presumably all other TAS Payroll users - access to SAGE payroll. Arghhh.......

We jumped ship faster then the proverbial deserting rat.

Using Moneysoft payroll now - good, fast, flexible, straightforward to use, excellent VFM.

Done our first batches of RTI filing without a hitch.

 

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By Healthpay
11th Apr 2013 15:16

Absolutely!

taxinfo]</p> <p>[quote=Healthpay wrote:
in a previous life I used to sell Sage..........
Poor you. Bet you're glad you got out, eh?

Too right I'm glad! I went through TAS to Moneysoft too. So glad!

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By andy.partridge
11th Apr 2013 12:53

Before you go with Moneysoft

You might want to check out the RTI issues/problems highlighted today on AnyAnswers

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By wendycrawford
11th Apr 2013 13:10

Payroll software for academy schools

Can anyone suggest some reasonably priced payroll software that can cope with the complexities of school payrolls with their tiered pensions schemes, multiple jobs posts etc etc.?

We are currently using Sage for our payroll bureau but have taken on a school payroll and it cannot cope with the issues of an employee having more than one NI rate which happens in school payroll.  Sage do not seem interested in giving us any assistance.

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By alandawson61
11th Apr 2013 13:11

Moneysoft

I'd go for this one its the Dogs Bxxxxxxs!

Cheap, bureau version available and (hate to use this phrase) it does what it says on the tin!

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By bwalters
11th Apr 2013 13:19

Have you looked at iiPay?

They advertise themselves as an international payroll software business (which they are) but we use their software to run our UK payrolls and are very happy with the result. Flexible, scaleable and approved by HMRC.

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By Cantona1
11th Apr 2013 14:03

Recent,I  heard Money soft

Recent,I  heard Money soft has been bought by another vendor.  

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By Richard_Carey
11th Apr 2013 14:27

really?

Cantona1 wrote:

Recent,I  heard Money soft has been bought by another vendor.  

thanks for letting us know (Moneysoft) - can we go home now? :)

 

(It's not true by the way)

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By taxinfo
11th Apr 2013 15:08

hahaha

That made me laugh, Richard!

Thank you for correcting this wrong impression and keep up the good work.

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By NYB
11th Apr 2013 19:20

Brightpay
Have used them under Brightpay and previously Thesaurus since on line filing was introduced. They are like a family firm. You get to know the various employees by name and consequently can speak to the same person twice. RTI has worked like a dream. I can' t believe it.. I would also mention that I am under the impression that half the time people don't know the theory behind RTI and it is not software that is the problem but understanding what is required. Nonetheless NO probs with BP and I would and have recommended them to others.

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By nolan8213
19th Feb 2015 00:19

Pension Scheme

I am currently using IRIS payroll.  Have you used BP with a pension scheme and would you still recommend them even with pension scheme slowly getting into place.?  Thank you

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By Cloudcounter
11th Apr 2013 21:18

Moneysoft support

- can't comment on that.  Never, ever had to use it, simple as that.  Can't really offer a higher endorsement of reliability and ease of use.  We've been using it for I guess six years (after Iris had their payroll fiasco.) 

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By DMGbus
19th Apr 2013 21:30

Pegasus Opera II update

To set up one extra company (client employer with just three employees) in Opera II took 100 minutes this afternoon - this was by a fully-experienced user of this software package.

The software appears to be absolute garbage.   Out of date design of software, not user friendly, error messages which don't give specifics as to problems.  Have to hand write down computer file path on a piece of paper from one screen then type it in on another screen.   Have to copy tax + NI tables from an existing client to added client.   Several windows have to be opened and boxes ticked (or unticked) - a horrendous process most likely to result in errors in the future.  No proper easy set-up wizard - experienced operators have to remember which boxes and in which order to open and complete. 

 

Acceptable set up time to me (based on say Moneysoft experience) would be about 20 minutes.  Opera experience = 5x as much time cost.

 

I've eMailed the software supplier asking them to provide a method to set up a client in Opera payroll in 20 minutes or less.

 

Once a satisfactory reply is received (ie. how to set up a new employer in 20 minutes) I'll post an update here.

 

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By nolan8213
19th Feb 2015 00:16

Brightpay vs IRIS

Hi

I am currently using IRIS business payroll which permits me 2 companies and up to 25 employees.  I have been using IRIS for 6 years and quite frankly getting annoyed with their problem customer service (known to wait up to an hour) and their hidden costs which even after asking them to be transparent with me continue to hide these costs from me.  It costs me £297 exc VAT annually and have had to so far pay an additional £99 exc VAT to get a PDF to learn RTI.  And now with the pension scheme starting date approaching wants to now charge an additional £450 for training and installation.  Plus to charge a monthly £1.80 approx per employee per month on the pension scheme.  

 

I have recently discovered Brightpay for £199 exc VAT and no hidden costs.  Can anybody recommend them and are their sure to be no hidden costs?  Is their software RTI and Pension Scheme compliant? Any known issues I should be aware of?

 

Sorry to ask all these questions but I simply cannot afford to spend too long on exporting and importing into different programs.

Thank you. 

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By Relax Payroll
27th May 2015 16:56

Moneysoft

The only issue I have with Moneysoft is that they do not have a facility for Quarterly or annual payroll runs. Shame really, this is a great VFM program, but not entirely suitable for my needs.  

Does anyone have any recommendations for a similar package?

Can BP do quarterly and annual runs?

Thanks in advance

 

 

 

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