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Payslips - new requirements from 06/04/2019

Show the number of hours for variable element

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Just a heads up really, new requirement from 06/04/2019:-

Amendment to the Employment Rights Act 1996

2. In section 8(2) of the Employment Rights Act 1996—

(a) in paragraph (c), omit “and”;

(b) at the end of paragraph (d) insert—

“and

(e) where the amount of wages or salary varies by reference to time worked, the total number of hours worked in respect of the variable amount of wages or salary either as—

(i) a single aggregate figure, or

(ii) separate figures for different types of work or different rates of pay.”  

Looks like we can no longer include overtime without referencing it back to the number of hours. MIght need a revision to the information flow from the client to payroll provider.

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By neiltonks
07th Nov 2018 12:29

There's no guidance available yet on what this means in practice, though this is promised soon and will be on the ACAS website.

Payroll software providers have been talking to BEIS (the government department responsible) for a year or so about this, so all the big suppliers will have relevant facilities in their systems by April (if they were't there already).

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By tom123
07th Nov 2018 12:29

I imagine if I was paid by the hour I would want my payslip to show that anyway, so I could check what I was being paid?

(all my hourly staff have this info currently)

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By DJKL
09th Nov 2018 11:18

You would hope, but that is often not the case.

My other half works in a local school as a Classroom Assistant. Because they only actually work term time and get long (only partly paid) holidays, their annual salaries are divided over 12 months rather than being paid as they work with very reduced pay in say the summer.

Now that is fine if they only work basic hours as one can follow from the annual pay to the 12 payments received but there can be extra paid hours (my wife regularly minutes school meetings outwith school hours etc) and marrying up payslip to payslip re the extra hours is near impossible on a month by month basis- I have given up attempting the process and now try to get my other half to keep a record of extra hours for the whole year and then try to tie up, in a ballpark way, with the P60.

If they now have to at least detail the extra hours on the payslips going forward I might have a better chance checking she is correctly paid.

As an aside, imho frankly none of the Edinburgh Classroom Assistants are correctly paid; the Council takes advantage of the goodwill of a large number of grossly overqualified individuals who do the job because they have say career changed to something less avaricious than their previous existence- in my wife's case former Stockmarket Quant Analyst- and given their qualifications and past experience (In her case M.A., MSc, RR) pay them appallingly badly- they frankly ought to be ashamed of themselves.

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By lionofludesch
09th Nov 2018 11:24

tom123 wrote:

I imagine if I was paid by the hour I would want my payslip to show that anyway, so I could check what I was being paid?

(all my hourly staff have this info currently)

I suspect that the real issue is the plethora of minimum wage legislation.

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By SteLacca
07th Nov 2018 13:02

Only have one client paying by the hour (possibly two), but a quick check of one of them shows that the detail is already on the payslip (Moneysoft), so no change here.

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By SXGuy
07th Nov 2018 20:32

No change for me either.

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By Kate Upcraft
09th Nov 2018 08:52

maybe there will be, discussions with BEIS have indicated this is not just for hourly paid staff but for salaried staff too who have any lump sums driven by hours worked, for example a call out payment that could be £50 or £75 depending on the hours I did attending the site would now need hours shown. The guidance as Neil says will be vital so we can see what BEIS see as in scope as there could be significant process flow changes needed from clients to payroll agents

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By SteLacca
09th Nov 2018 10:28

That could be difficult. One client pays a fixed amount per call out (i.e. not hourly), so not possible to show hours.

However, Moneysoft does detail the number of call outs and rate for each on the payslip.

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By lionofludesch
09th Nov 2018 10:42

That is my reading of the situation.

Big problem for anybody on any form of piece work.

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