Peugeot Tepee (Car or Van for business use)?

Peugeot Tepee (Car or Van for business use)?

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A client has just purchased a Peugeot Tepee and I wondered if this could be classed as a Van for business use (they are not a taxi driver)?

 

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By Open all hours
10th Aug 2023 18:31

I believe it is a car. Glass (though often heavily tinted) behind the front doors? The Bipper and Partner are vans.

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By Open all hours
10th Aug 2023 18:36

Some are marketed as ‘Partner Tepee’. Partner a van the tepee moniker added to distinguish it as a car? ‘Van based MPV’, designed primarily for people not goods. Car.

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By lionofludesch
10th Aug 2023 18:31

They've got windows behind the driver's seat, have they not ?

So I vote no.

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By Hugo Fair
10th Aug 2023 18:35

"A client has just purchased a Peugeot Tepee and I wondered if this could be classed as a Van for business use"

- might have been sensible of client to have enquired *before* making the purchase
- what it is classed as is not a choice to be made by client (or you), it is a matter of fact (or at least HMRC determination)
- if the vehicle is truly borderline (in its van vs car decision), then the specific model and possibly any after-market variations can be critical

BTW is the question related to possibility of reclaiming VAT or BiK rating or what?

[In future I'd say - if you want a van then buy one, and vice-versa if you want a car; they are different beasts with different primary purposes.]

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By Tax Dragon
11th Aug 2023 05:54

Hugo Fair wrote:

In future I'd say - if you want a van then buy one, and vice-versa if you want a car...

What if you want a Peugeot Tepee?

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By graydjames
14th Aug 2023 09:53

Such arrogance.

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By Hugo Fair
14th Aug 2023 12:11

[sound of cage rattling is lost in the wind - whilst you search for the sense of humour that you appear to have put down somewhere, if only you could remember where]

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By Wanderer
11th Aug 2023 06:13

Self employed?
Employed?
BIK issue?
VAT issue?
CA issue?
Seats / seat belts / mountings?

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By Carolynne
11th Aug 2023 09:36

Thanks for all your replies and thank you 'open all hours' for your first comment, as there is indeed glass behind the front doors. As with most clients, even though we tell them to buy a van for business use, they sometimes go their own way, often suffering the financial consequences of their actions. I thought not, but wanted to double check.

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By Grainbook
14th Aug 2023 10:58

Interesting one. Could I add another point from the vehicle perspective. If on the vehicle log book (V5C) it states M1 vehicle - it is for passengers. If it states N1 - it is a light goods vehicle. This is the distinction between car derived vans and vice versa. I am sure HMRC are well aware of this but there is also an interest from DVSA ( Driver Vehicle Standard Agency) and the Police. Reason being a N1 vehicle is up to 3500kg (white van man) as it is a goods vehicle has a lower speed limit of 60 MPH on dual carriageways instead of 70 MPH! The amount of white van man who have been prosecuted on the A1(M) for speeding will testify to that. A Citroen Berlingo Van is an interesting one. It could be either a M1 or N1 depending how the dealer first registered the vehicle. Food for thought - better still get the Highway Code out.

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By PChapman
14th Aug 2023 11:18

A quick google search shows that the teepee is marketed as a MPV. Therefore by default it is a car. (campervans are also cars)

HMRC have an approved list of car derrived vans - although I don't think they've updated it for a while!

Anything that is remotely MPVish or crew cab ish is a huge grey area at the moment. have a look at CocaCola vs HMRC

How it has been configured is a big factor. If there are rear seats or any possibility of rear seats then = car
If there are no rear seats and no provision for rear seats then may be a van. If there's a bulkhead between the cargo area and the cabin then that strengthens the argument.

It is quite possible to get a different answer for VAT and for Corp tax and BiK Personal tax so be aware of that.

Whatever you decide it is keep your notes to back up your decision

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By Carolynne
14th Aug 2023 12:14

Hi Peter

Thanks for your comprehensive reply on this

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By GDavidson
14th Aug 2023 12:41

A great game is buying a van as defined and then taking it to one of the many businesses that have shot up putting in rear seats and windows and taking out bulkhead and, bingo, you have a car but as far as HMRC are concerned, who might only see the original invoice, it is a van. VAT, BiK, allowances all based on van. How will they ever know.

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By vstrad
14th Aug 2023 18:01

On the other hand, the additional cost to insure a modified vehicle might be significant.

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