Post Office - insult to injury?

For goodness sake just close it down!

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Not content with destroying the lives of the sub postmasters and mistresses the Post Office continue to push the boundaries of their corporate incompetence and have now published the personal detail of them on their website. Obviously now removed but if there were any doubt of them being a national embarrassment that doubt has been removed. 

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By FactChecker
19th Jun 2024 22:34

Hadn't heard about that ... but am having difficulty in looking surprised!

Being a coward (and with a few medical issues to distract me) I'd given the PO Enquiry a wide berth for several days ... but a masochistic streak took me back there (live online) today.
And wow ... I'd have taken good odds that no-one could look more untrustworthy and insincere than the Vennells puppet show, but then we got the Fujitsu ex-big shots:

Richard Christou (former Chief Executive and Executive Chairman of Fujitsu Services Holdings plc) and Duncan Tait (former Chief Executive of Fujitsu Services Ltd).

Both appear to have discovered an infinite source of Teflon which, combined with an ill-concealed smugness, makes this viewer very queasy.
The only hesitation that I saw was when the former batted away so many questions as being 'too technical' or 'not important enough' for him that he realised it was hard to determine what he DID do or know as part of his well-remunerated job.

They are like Nero ... and it's more than just Rome that is aflame.

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By D V Fields
20th Jun 2024 11:23

My source was the emails from Nick Wallis who as am sure you know has been reporting on it very well.

The two Fujitsu's guys seem to blame everyone except themselves.

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By DJKL
20th Jun 2024 14:45

There are views that Nero got a bad press (He who writes the history......) so stop being so harsh on him.

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By FactChecker
20th Jun 2024 18:28

Didn't expect to see you defending someone who's name is synonymous with fiddling! :=)

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By Paul Crowley
19th Jun 2024 23:44

We get all sorts of problems if the totally pointless AML is not done correctly.
Big operations can ruin lives and get by damage free.
Accountability only happens at the lower levels.

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By Leywood
20th Jun 2024 01:04

They are supposedly investigating the breach. We shouldn’t hold our breath then!!

I keep saying I shouldn’t be surprised by what keeps coming out of this saga, but every day there is something that just leaves me utterly stunned. If this was the plot of a film we would be saying it was utterly too far fetched.

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By Paul Crowley
20th Jun 2024 01:46

Nobody would find an accurate film as credible.

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By Jason Croke
20th Jun 2024 08:36

Leywood wrote:

They are supposedly investigating the breach. We shouldn’t hold our breath then!!

I keep saying I shouldn’t be surprised by what keeps coming out of this saga, but every day there is something that just leaves me utterly stunned. If this was the plot of a film we would be saying it was utterly too far fetched.


The independent review will conclude that the sub postmasters released their own personal details that were held on the PO databases, because that seems to be the theme with the PO nowadays.

The stuff coming out of the hearing this week with Second Sight is astonishing, hire some cheap accountants in the hope they'll not find anything, they find lods of stuff, ask them to print an interim report and then sack them.

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By D V Fields
20th Jun 2024 11:48

I know! The conduct of all the lawyers is also astonishing.

This morning Graham Ward one of the Post Office Investigators wriggled through more evidence. In his initial evidence he confirmed he hadn't deleted a reference to reported bugs in Horizon because leaving it in a witness statement would be damaging to Post Office's court cases. Mr Beer (Counsel to Inquiry) took him through the amendments recorded in the documentation where he indeed did delete such references. He "could see how it looks like that but it was never his intention" was his offering.

Any ICO fine will just be more tax-payers' monies being squandered.

I have faith that Sir Wyn will deliver a well balanced verdict - he is clearly nobody's fool.

I thought Second Sight's (SS) evidence was frank. They admitted when they thought they got things wrong. I bet the Post Office wished they (SS) had decided to walk away from the sham they were uncovering - they could have prolonged the agony even further.

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By D V Fields
20th Jun 2024 11:58

I am expecting great things from Gareth Jenkins next week. I don't think I will be surprised at anything he says. He possibly has nothing to lose so may well take them all down with him. I think he will have mitigating reasons for much of his evidence - not least the failure of lawyers to properly advise him.

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By Verified
20th Jun 2024 08:29

Now consider that you have these kind of crises of dishonesty and cover up in just about every big company and public body going.

- We'd solved the problem of tipping sewage into lakes. Water companies are doing it again, day after day, tonnes and tonnes and don't care.

- Academia an science has a lot of problems termed "Professor Pleasing" and "Replication Crisis", which all means that a lot of time and money is being spent on (deliberately) false studies - which no doubt go on to influence what gets done out in the real world.

I could go on.

Catatonic Collapse is the term I'd use for western countries right now - and I don't see it reversing any time soon.

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