Rental property Finance costs

Are Bank Charges included in this adjustment?

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Hi All 

Can someone just enlighten me as to whether bank charges should be restricted when calculating the finance charge restriction for rental properties?

This is for, say, a bank that charges £5 per month, or if the account is a 'business' account that charges for transactions

I've seen https://www.gov.uk/hmrc-internal-manuals/property-income-manual/pim2054, but this does not specify the above.   I have generally restricted it to avoid potential queries, but a colleague (who has since left) has allowed them!

Thanks

Jonathan.

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By SXGuy
04th Oct 2019 10:17

Bank charges, overdraft fees and overdraft interest are all excluded from the restriction. Stick it in other allowable expenses.

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By lionofludesch
04th Oct 2019 10:20

Not finance charges for me.

The bank charges haven't been used to buy a house.

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By Tax Dragon
04th Oct 2019 11:16

Me too. These charges would arise with or without the loan.

Our software lets you tell it whether s272A etc applies in relation to finance costs, so we don't need to stick it anywhere. If there's overdraft interest, you need to wonder why - and remember BIM45700.

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By SteveHa
04th Oct 2019 11:35

I concur - allowable in full.

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By Accountant A
04th Oct 2019 12:46

It's not a cost relating to 'finance' - it's a cost of the bank providing banking services. You wouldn't reduce the expense if the property wasn't debt funded.

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By Tax Dragon
04th Oct 2019 13:02

That makes it 6-1.

It'd be cruel to mention Hibs.

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By lionofludesch
04th Oct 2019 13:12

[chuckle]

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By JonathanD
04th Oct 2019 13:44

THANKS ALL FOR YOUR HELP!

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