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Sage 50 payroll Job Retention Scheme module

Does anyone use Sage 50 Job Retention Scheme module with success?

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Does anyone who uses Sage 50 payroll use the Job Retention Scheme module?  I downloaded it but as Sage calculates according to the tax week or month, and HMRC guidance is based on the calendar month or pay reference period I abandoned the Sage module and went back to manual calculations.  However, with having more than 60 clients this is proving very time consuming, and will become moreso considering the changes announced at the weekend.  Do the rest of you find it works for you with much success, or do you just accept the calculations Sage produces without question and hope for the best?

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By Cheshire
01st Jun 2020 23:47

I would suspect, from reading comments on here over a number of years, that you are in the minority using sage with a client base. Most tend to use Moneysoft or Brightpay.

Ive seen quite a few queries though from sage users over CJRS, most, from what I can recall, appear to be business owners rather than professionals. Most seen to indicate that Sage is producing duff info.

I use Moneysoft but I still sense check the results. Just as I do when using taxfiler to complete a tax return. Fag packets are still the best way when in doubt/to be sure.

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By Paul Morgan
02nd Jun 2020 10:35

Hi Barbara,

Shortly after launching the Job Retention Scheme Module for Sage 50cloud Payroll we made some improvements to it. Included in these improvements was a change to the way the module made it’s calculations, to make them more in line with HMRC’s method.

We've put together some handy videos to help users understand the calculations in the Job Retention Scheme Module. You can view these here http://ow.ly/IltO30qLQzr

You can also read more details about the calculations in our Job Retention Scheme Module calculations guide here http://ow.ly/ISOe30qLQzs

Regards,

Paul
Sage UKI

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By waldron
02nd Jun 2020 14:56

"more in line" doesn't sound very reassuring.

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By Cheshire
02nd Jun 2020 15:49

28 April you said ''The Sage Job Retention Scheme module does calculate the figures differently to HMRC, but HMRC have checked and approved our method.''

You were fairly adamant on your posts that this was completely correct, so why would you need to change them?

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By Paul Morgan
02nd Jun 2020 15:56

Hi,

We changed this based on customer feedback, as most were used to using HMRC’s method.

Regards,

Paul
Sage UKI

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By Cheshire
02nd Jun 2020 16:44

Hilarious!

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By Barbara G
02nd Jun 2020 20:21

Hi Paul. Thanks for your reply. Yes, I did read the articles when they were issued shortly after the module was lauched, as you have attached in your message, but I don't really want an explanation of how Sage does the calculations, I would really just prefer the calculations to be correct according to the way HMRC calculates them. I'm not just talking about a few pounds difference due to various calculations for National Insurance, it's more many pounds' difference because Sage calculates according to the tax week/month, which HMRC does not. Is there any chance Sage might change or update this method in the very near future? It would be most benefical given the various changes due to take place between now and the end of October. I too have been trialling Brightpay for a number of clients with a view to migrating away from Sage for all of my clients, but I would prefer to stay with Sage, if I can, as I am more familiar with the payroll software end of things. Many thanks

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By Paul Morgan
03rd Jun 2020 14:07

Ok, thanks Barbara.

I’ve raised this with our Sage 50cloud Payroll Product team, to see what is planned for the Job Retention Scheme module going forward. I’ll keep you updated.

Regards,

Paul
Sage UKI

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