Sage 50 vs Sage business cloud accounting

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Hi all.

Just wondering if anyone on here would or has switched from Sage 50 to Sage business cloud for their own practice?

Any thoughts or comments welcome. 

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By kim.shaw-and-co.com
05th Apr 2024 02:47

No, but I have moved a client from the former to the latter and they seem very happy with it. Apart from the 90% decrease in annual charges through an agent-based deal, the ability for multiple users to update at the same time and the user-friendly multi-currency functionality for sales and purchases they needed it 'does the job' for them.

As regards suitability for practice use, I'm really not sure a system without integrated timesheet-linked billing and is optimal ... is this a very small practice ?

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By HL86
05th Apr 2024 07:30

Hi small/medium practice working on a fixed fee basis rather than time sheets, therefore no integrated billing required.

We use sage cloud for bookkeeping for our clients and I love it but they are mainly small businesses themselves with minimal income and expenses that need a software for MTD.

We do use other online software at clients requests as listed below :
XERO - next favourite after sage but very costly as we don't have many clients on there so minimal discount compared to our sage ones.
Quick books -can't stand it
Free agent- would rather avoid like the plague
Quickfile - OKish only seen 2 clients on this to date, would work out very expensive for our practice as they charge per transactions, we have a lot. The agent viewing platform affinity charges for each connection even if the client is paying from what I have seen so instead you need a separate email address for each login. Doable with email aliases but a bit annoying.

I'm pretty set on going over to sage online exactly for the reasons you listed. I find Sage 50 clunky but it hasn't let us down to date. It would be a big move over and I don't want it to be for nothing. But there's always the saying "if it ain't broke don't try to fix it" or something like that!

All feedback is greatly appreciated in any case.

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By rmillaree
05th Apr 2024 09:43

its a no brainer to swop really unless there is anything specifically to make you want to not swap - there will always be a couople of icks with any change where you simply have to do it the eay the new softeware does

Normally sage will pull through last 2 years data pretty much as it was foc most of then time - so you shouldnt really even be a hassle with regard to moving over your debtors ledger and trial balance entries. Presuming you have a partner account your account manager will sort out ten migration we have done a couope recently for clients without any real hassles - cant imagine your acounting data would be treated any differently in that regard.

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By HL86
05th Apr 2024 11:22

yes we have a partner account.

Your comments are much appreciated thank you all

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By kim.shaw-and-co.com
05th Apr 2024 13:49

HL86 wrote:

Hi small/medium practice working on a fixed fee basis rather than time sheets, therefore no integrated billing required.

We use sage cloud for bookkeeping for our clients and I love it but they are mainly small businesses themselves with minimal income and expenses that need a software for MTD.

We do use other online software at clients requests as listed below :
XERO - next favourite after sage but very costly as we don't have many clients on there so minimal discount compared to our sage ones.
Quick books -can't stand it
Free agent- would rather avoid like the plague
Quickfile - OKish only seen 2 clients on this to date, would work out very expensive for our practice as they charge per transactions, we have a lot. The agent viewing platform affinity charges for each connection even if the client is paying from what I have seen so instead you need a separate email address for each login. Doable with email aliases but a bit annoying.

I'm pretty set on going over to sage online exactly for the reasons you listed. I find Sage 50 clunky but it hasn't let us down to date. It would be a big move over and I don't want it to be for nothing. But there's always the saying "if it ain't broke don't try to fix it" or something like that!

All feedback is greatly appreciated in any case.

I wouldn't hesitate then. If you have forex, Cloud and 50 use different rounding formulae and SAGE don't support transactional import, so comparative data transfer needs careful planning so you don't lose the benefit of e.g. monthly analytical review at the 'total' level.

As regards day-to-day it's really very easy and once you get through the process you'll wonder why you didn't do it before !

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By westdeep
11th Apr 2024 11:30

Glad I'm not alone in my hatred of QuickBooks!

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By Rgab1947
11th Apr 2024 11:37

Tut, tut. Works well and in my view smoother and easier than Xero.

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By Steven Dring
11th Apr 2024 11:49

I have always found Sage Business Cloud an awful attempt at online cloud based bookkeeping.
For us, we suggest Sage 50 for bigger clients while steering smaller ones to Quickbooks or Xero.

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By rmillaree
11th Apr 2024 12:12

sage have ramped up the funtionality of sage cloud over the years - for non volume complicated stuff the main advantage is that you can search by text easier than you can on sage 50 - and us having proper direct online access is less torture than sage cloud 50 which we have found extremely unreliable. For example sage cloud now has inbuilt scanning of supplier invoices (albeit 25 limit per upload). It can be glitchy / have issues more than other products at present i would say. IMHO though there is no doubt that this is now probably their flagship product in the uk ref ionvesting resources for the future - for those that dont need the extra options that sage 50 can bring to the table it is an option and we can ge volume licences cheaper than xero genrally.

We find that less techy clients not doing voilume stuff tend to prefer the slightly more basic layout that sage cloud has - sometimes less is more.

Note i have always been more of a xero fanboy personally - but there is no doubt imho if you want simple daybook business with payments on account being common sage actually works slightly better than xero ref unallocated payments on account ref simplicity of use for users

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By tracey2412
11th Apr 2024 11:54

I've stuck with Sage Cloud since the early days when it was truly awful. Still not perfect but I run my business through it (not a traditional accountancy practice) as well as host clients on the Start/Standard/Plus licences & a few very simple one person director payrolls.
I like that everything is on one log in (recently added 2 FA, bit of a faff to set up but once on Google Authenticator, is fine). The reporting could be better but if I really want I can wxport data & manipulate.
I believe there are apps which can integrate which would do time cost / timesheet stuff & some that can do more of the reporting though how fiddly the mapping is, I can;t say as never tried.
My account manager is generally helpful & approachable for any issues I have with anything.
They are working hard on 3rd part integrations & I recently did a beta test with them on integrating GoCardless. They only tested on Partners first, before roling out to end users. I use recurring invoicing for software subscriptions & now it does it all from within Sage meaning I don't have to do a manual import of the data, saves me so much time. Stripe integration is their next project & I'm keen for that is the other way I get paid (not through Sage invoicing).
Hope that's helpful?

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By rmillaree
11th Apr 2024 12:16

Stripe integration is their next project

stripe integration for sage cloud has been working for a couple of years plus now - very easy to setup and you can either offer automatic payment options (or not) by simple button toggle when you send out sales invoices.
It shuld be accesible via apps and connections main page

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