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HMRC need to get current systems working first before moving onto next project

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The 2020/21 API with HMRC is now open on the tax return software I use, and SEISS is a new element. Of course it shows no data yet in true HMRC style.

SEISS data is cut and dried. They know exactly what they have paid to each person. What possible reason is there for this not to be available.

The employment data should be always available too. What's the point of RTI if HMRC need months to "reconcile" it?

If they can't get these basic systems working, how can they expect to run a whole new tax reporting system?

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By rmillaree
23rd Jun 2021 09:03

Ref employment data - if they wanted to make excuses they could say they main be constrained with p11d filing deadlines.

as you say SEISS no excuses - perhaps they want one simple tidy update with both that emans we don't get the useful data we could have when we want it. I am 100% fine not relying on hmrc when it come sto p11d info anways :)

"If they can't get these basic systems working, how can they expect to run a whole new tax reporting system?"
Well they can run whatever they want it just won't be pretty "technically" will it as we all know.

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By Hugo Fair
23rd Jun 2021 11:29

"What's the point of RTI if HMRC need months to "reconcile" it?"

You're making the basic (if understandable) mistake of a key assumption ... that what you submit via RTI goes onto a single system (from where you should be able to view the data).
In reality, what you submit is "treated" several times as a precursor to being re-posted to multiple other systems ... only one of which is meant to give you access later via an API.

Of course this introduces loads of opportunities for data to change en route between systems, so HMRC use their ageing reconciliation routines (most of which are no longer relevant) in the hope that the data errors can be found and corrected.

The net result is a triumph for use of IT in HMRC ... the data is not consistently the same as when it was submitted, but takes weeks or even months to get into a state deemed OK for viewing by 3rd-parties (such as Agents and taxpayers)!

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By User deleted
23rd Jun 2021 13:47

Ah, yes, silly me!

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