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I have had a number of clients received a letter from HMRC telling them they must file an SA. The letter is dated 6th April but received this week.

This is causing clients to question my methods and again HMRC are acting irresponsibly. Any of you had a prblem.

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By K81
18th Jun 2019 10:47

I had a client bring her letter in this morning. Her return was completed & filed in May.

The problem is the notice to file are all printed in January/February & then stock piled & posted in batches, happens every year.

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By pauld
18th Jun 2019 10:58

It's a letter received by your client direct from HMRC - Why should the client be questioning your methods?

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to pauld
18th Jun 2019 11:37

Not questioning more checking .

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18th Jun 2019 11:01

Common problem, has been happening for years.

Received one today 18 June where client's address is our office but dated 6 April .

Moreover I'd say that probably 60% of clients say they never receive one at all, but HMRCs systems still show as issued on 6 April.

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to Wanderer
18th Jun 2019 11:06

Wanderer wrote:

Moreover I'd say that probably 60% of clients say they never receive one at all, but HMRCs systems still show as issued on 6 April.

Yeah, but you can't believe clients, can you ?

I had one bring his stuff in. "Is the Tax Return in here?" I asked. "No," he said. "Never got one."

It was in a small grey bin bag* at the bottom of the box. Never been opened.

*Younger readers may not be aware that HMRC used to send out Tax Returns in plastic wrappers.

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to lionofludesch
18th Jun 2019 11:38

Good luck with Mtd then

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to GHarr497688
18th Jun 2019 12:25

Well, that's always been the issue, hasn't it ?

HMRC think taxpayers are interested in accounting software.

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By 356B
to lionofludesch
18th Jun 2019 15:22

*Younger readers may not be aware that HMRC used to send out Tax Returns in plastic wrapper

They still do.

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to Wanderer
18th Jun 2019 12:49

Had a similar arrival in the post this morning.

I am reminded of a time a few years back when I received an envelope from HMRC that contained:
- 1) agent copy of an enquiry notice for my client's tax return
- 2) enquiry notice for a completely unconnected person (not a client of ours); and
- 3) agent copy of the notice for the non client in 2

Returned 2 & 3 to HMRC suggesting they might like to have another go at issuing the notices, but am reminded of this EVERY time I read a penalty case where HMRC provide their computer record as proof of issue and say "well the 'customer' must have received the notice because it was not returned to HMRC"

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18th Jun 2019 11:14

Twas always thus, although seems to be getting worse!

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18th Jun 2019 11:41

HMRC have come in for regular criticism by the tribunals for trying to insist that the system generated "issued on 6th April" is a reliable record that this was sent out. It appears that HMRC may not actually keep records or be able to access when the notification was actually posted but in all honesty, this seems largely to go in the taxpayers favour.

I also have doubts over if they are all sent out at all.

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18th Jun 2019 12:33

Ironically, a lady client has just phoned to say that she's received a similar letter, also dated 6th April 2019.

Her Tax return was filed at the end of May.

Does HMRC do anything particularly well, these days?

I'll not hold my breath, awaiting the "list".

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