So HMRC are checking SEISS grants

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We have received information from HMRC to explain that some tax returns are taking longer to process due to reconciling the amounts of SEISS grants received. Whilst in some instances the delay has been due to an issue with HMRC systems, which has now been rectified, there are also delays due to errors in the reporting of SEISS grants.

If you or your client's tax return has been submitted in TaxCalc but has not been processed by HMRC, which means it cannot be viewed on government gateway accounts despite being filed successfully, it may be worth checking the SEISS grant entries on the return.

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By Mr_awol
07th Jul 2021 17:02

I was told that they were manually checking all repayment/SEISS returns. However I didn't think to ask whether it was:
1) All SEISS Returns regardless of repayment status
2) All repayment Returns regardless of SEISS status
3) Only Returns that had BOTH a repayment, and an SEISS claim.
Even if i had asked, im not sure whether I'd have got a straight answer to be fair. Expect repayment delays, is my advice to clients (i dont need to tell them to expect their SEISS claims to be checked as ive already got them to confirm that their claims were definitely valid before i sent them the Return anyway)

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By Hugo Fair
07th Jul 2021 19:14

"If you or your client's tax return has been submitted in TaxCalc but has not been processed by HMRC, which means it cannot be viewed on government gateway accounts despite being filed successfully, it may be worth checking the SEISS grant entries on the return."

Yeah, and then what ???

It's the sheer sense of futility that you can only guarantee experiencing by interacting with HMRC. The whole 'explanation' could be summed up as "just wait, we'll get back to you" (but without any indicative timescale or a contact point on offer).

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By Tornado
07th Jul 2021 21:10

I did phone the Agent helpline about two clients with Returns submitted in Mid May that are still unprocessed and the ONLY response I got was that 'they will be processed as soon as possible'

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By dizzielizzie35
29th Jul 2021 17:30

Mine was sent in in April - Still in limbo. Soooo annoying.

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By Mr_awol
07th Jul 2021 22:48

Let’s face it though - unless it’s a repayment, who cares how long they take to process it?

So many people have ripped the [***] out of Covid support I’d rather they checked every damn one - and prioritised refunds obviously. As such if I submit a liability Return and it doesn’t get ‘accepted’ until Christmas, what difference does it make? Doesn’t stop the client making the payments etc.

Edit: in hindsight you’d be [***] off if you needed it for mortgage purposes I suppose,

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By Constantly Confused
08th Jul 2021 07:58

Mr_awol wrote:

Let’s face it though - unless it’s a repayment, who cares how long they take to process it?

So many people have ripped the [***] out of Covid support I’d rather they checked every damn one - and prioritised refunds obviously. As such if I submit a liability Return and it doesn’t get ‘accepted’ until Christmas, what difference does it make? Doesn’t stop the client making the payments etc.

Edit: in hindsight you’d be [***] off if you needed it for mortgage purposes I suppose,

Given how many clients I have had where a payment has been returned as HMRC haven't processed the return and so created the matching liability (or where they keep chasing for payments that aren't due) I find the idea that they are slow to process payment returns almost as annoying as refund returns.

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By Mr_awol
08th Jul 2021 10:27

I have had that loads with CT in the past (not so much lately) but cant recall a single time it has happened with SA payments. Maybe my clients just never pay up front. That said i do have a couple who are just chucking money at HMRC on an ad-hoc basis (unofficial POAs) for their own budgeting reasons, and even they haven't been refunded.

Maybe it's a bigger issue than my own experience suggests. If HOMC are chasing for POAs that aren't due i suppose the answer is just to manually adjust them whilst the Return is pending. Id still rather they checked.

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By RedFive
08th Jul 2021 15:08

Disagree. Many clients have reduced POA's this year. One receive dthe statement showing the previous POA being reqested as the tax return I had submitted 17 May has not been processed yet.

Client thinks I can't do my job properly " you said the July payment was reduced, HMRC says it isn't" then phone calls and time taken to speak to agent helpline and then back to client to explain.

I agree that EVERY seiss grant should be checked but it's, like 2021 and we put it in a separate box. How hard can it be?

It's not good enough but nowt we can do other than shrug our shoulders as yet another HMRC dropped rollock "cos of covid innit".

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By Arthur Putey
08th Jul 2021 12:06

There was discussion a while ago about CIS refunds being delayed becuase HMRC were cross-checking with SEISS, but it would be logical for checks to be made on SA refund cases generally. At least HMRC can act as some form of stable door.

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