So it's not true then ...

... HMRC do possess a (twisted) sense of humour!

Didn't find your answer?

Their latest Agent Update leads with a section on "Influencing your clients to do their tax returns now".  And this opens with ...

"When you next communicate with your Self Assessment clients, you may want to include practical steps they can make to assist you in completing their tax return early, along with the following messages to encourage them (a list follows including):

* beat the rush — HMRC’s busiest time is January so if something goes wrong and you need to contact them, you might find it hard to get through."

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Whereas you'll find it much easier in the summer when most HMRC staff seem to be on holiday and anyway their helplines have been closed (oh sorry 'shuttered')?

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If you want to search for more fun nuggets (as well as more prosaic info on Economic Crime (Anti-Money Laundering) Levy and more), the repository of entertainment can be found at https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/agent-update-issue-110/issue-...

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By Catherine Newman
20th Jul 2023 12:52

Teaching Grandma to suck eggs.

I have received an SA302 for a self-employed individual today who should be paying Class 2 but HMRC have removed it -probably not registered properly but has been SA for a long time.

Agent update goes on to say about bringing you record up to date.

"What do you think of HMRC's manuals?" Don't tempt me!

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By Southwestbeancounter
20th Jul 2023 14:27

I got a SA302 yesterday for someone who voluntarily paid Class 2 for 2021/22 and who has now found out they have enough NI contributions for a full SP so we amended his return in June to now show nil Class 2 payable (& a resultant refund due as he paid it in January)

The SA302 turned up yesterday thanking us for our amendment and advising that the tax liability was £158.60! That just goes to prove that when we do an amendment online that someone is typing it in again the other end as what I sent in certainly did not say that!

Now to find 45 minutes to ring them to get them to correct their error! Ugh!!

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By Catherine Newman
20th Jul 2023 15:04

Good luck!

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By Rammstein1
20th Jul 2023 15:19

I'm not 100% sure that HMRC are wrong. You have until 31 January following the end of the tax year to pay Class 2 NIC and your client has done this. He has now decided after the deadline that he doesn't want to pay it but it's after the deadline. Genuinely interested to see if he gets the contribution back.

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By Southwestbeancounter
20th Jul 2023 17:13

Yes I know Class 2 is treated 'weirdly' compared to ordinary 'tax' especially when you pay late but technically my client's original SATR is now incorrect so we will have to see what happens!

Class 2 should never be lumped in with tax as far as I am concerned as it is a real pain making sure that clients pay enough by the deadline for their SP entitlement but not too much if they don't have to.

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By Hometing
20th Jul 2023 13:24

They live in another world.

It's very hard to persuade people to complete their tax returns when HMRC are still holding on to their overpayments from the previous year...

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