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Sole Trader / Invoice in Euros / Accountant Req

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I have a few questions about how to manage my situation post Brexit.

I will also be looking for an accountant as well.

Facts (Even if they are obvious):

  1. I am a UK citizen, born and bred
  2. I want to be a sole trader at first
  3. I want to start 6th April 2021 as that is the start of the fiscal year (I think). I understand there needs to be pre-preparation, bank account, HMRC etc...
  4. My websites will be setup to accept Euros as I have international clients and from my research, they prefer to see everything in Euros.
  5. I will be using stripe as my payment gateway.
  6. I offer the following services:
    1. Online training classes
    2. Online IT support and training
    3. Future goals
      1. Sell online courses + workshops. Complete package
    4. We have no physical products.
  7. I will be using WooCommerce to generate all the invoices. This gives me a level of flexibility as I can customise the invoices as I want and need as well as to comply with whatever regulations.
    1. I will generate invoices for those who will do a bank transfer.
    2. I will accept online payments via credit card and debit card which is pretty much automated.

Questions:

  1. The invoice will obviously show the total amount in Euros. What information do I have to show on the invoice?
    1. My address. Mandatory
    2. Their address? (This is an interesting one because I have seen some companies that only show the email and not the client’s address.
    3. Euro Total?
    4. Conversion amount?
    5. GBP Conversion total e.g.
      1. Total 100 Euros
      2. GBP Total £92.30

 

  1. As I offer two different services, I will have two different websites.
    1. Can I have the following invoice numbering system?
      1. Company A: COMP-A-0001
      2. Company B: COMP-B-0001
    2. This means at the end of the month I would provide two sets of invoices. Of course, the payment will go through this same stripe account as well as bank transfers will go to the same sole trader account.

 

  1. Traveling
    1. From time to time, I will be obligated to travel to certain countries to meet companies as well as individual clients.
      1. I would like to know what kind of expenses are allowed?

Accountant

Can anyone recommend a cheap and reliable accountant? Someone I can communicate online as well as answer all my doubts/questions which I will have quite a few in the first month. But after getting into a routine, it will only be the odd question here and there.

Feel free to PM me.

I am sure that I have definitely forgotten a few is why I need to get an accountant that has pretty sharp communicative skills.

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By paul.benny
10th Mar 2021 13:20

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Feel free to PM me.

Anonymous

Hahahaha

EDIT - OP originally selected Anonymous. They have now amended this.

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By Cheshire
10th Mar 2021 12:58

You couldnt make it up could you.

Coffee on PC screen moment.

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By Antone Wilkins
10th Mar 2021 13:02

Quote:

Quote: Feel free to PM me.

Anonymous

Hahahaha

oh dear, it appears I made a mistake. I was not meant to post this anonymously..

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By Cheshire
10th Mar 2021 13:09

Bit odd as you have to actively opt for anon posting.

Might also be better to post the bit advertising for an Accountant at the top of your post to make your intentions more clear, besides most of us havent got time to read all of it, unless we are wanting to quote.

Also might be an idea to say where you are.

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By Antone Wilkins
10th Mar 2021 13:18

I will you stated at the top and looking for an accountant. I think you are referring to the subject line:

I stated I'm from the UK. more specifically the West Midlands area.

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By Cheshire
10th Mar 2021 14:40

Antone Wilkins wrote:

I will you stated at the top and looking for an accountant. I think you are referring to the subject line:

I stated I'm from the UK. more specifically the West Midlands area.

No, I don't mean the subject line.

I meant the whole of ''Accountant. Can anyone recommend a cheap and reliable accountant? Someone I can communicate online as well as answer all my doubts/questions which I will have quite a few in the first month. But after getting into a routine, it will only be the odd question here and there.Feel free to PM me.''

Would've been better at the top, to show your intention.

Although your 'as well' indicates you were looking for more free advice than had already been given on an earlier post. Accountants give tailored advice, so asking a bunch of strangers and only providing some scant facts is not a great idea.

Get some recommendations, or look at eg ICAEW 'find an Accountant' lists for someone local.

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By Arthur Putey
10th Mar 2021 14:57

Cheshire wrote:

.... look at eg ICAEW 'find an Accountant' lists for someone local.

Other accountancy accreditation bodies are available.

By the way, there are plenty of reliable accountants on here, but no cheap ones.

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By Antone Wilkins
10th Mar 2021 15:05

Thanks for the information. Cheap is a relative word. However, we are not looking for extortionate accountants.

Thank you

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By Antone Wilkins
10th Mar 2021 13:19

Cheshire wrote:

Bit odd as you have to actively opt for anon posting.

Might also be better to post the bit advertising for an Accountant at the top of your post to make your intentions more clear, besides most of us havent got time to read all of it, unless we are wanting to quote.

Also might be an idea to say where you are.

Regarding the post itself, if I'm looking for accountant it is problem a good idea I address my concerns.

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By Antone Wilkins
10th Mar 2021 13:02

paul.benny wrote:

Quote: Feel free to PM me.

Anonymous

Hahahaha

Fixed

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By stepurhan
10th Mar 2021 13:26

A few questions? I dread to think what you would consider a lot. Perhaps your prospective adviser is not the only one that needs to brush up their communication skills.

You should not look for an accountant "as well". You should look for one full stop. Only a paid-for adviser would be willing to answer that many questions for you. You might find one here, though you have not made the best first impression for that. Far better to get recommendations or search locally to you. A lot can be done online (has to at the moment) but being in a position to do face to face meetings at some point is usually a plus.

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By Antone Wilkins
10th Mar 2021 13:38

stepurhan wrote:

A few questions? I dread to think what you would consider a lot. Perhaps your prospective adviser is not the only one that needs to brush up their communication skills.

You should not look for an accountant "as well". You should look for one full stop. Only a paid-for adviser would be willing to answer that many questions for you. You might find one here, though you have not made the best first impression for that. Far better to get recommendations or search locally to you. A lot can be done online (has to at the moment) but being in a position to do face to face meetings at some point is usually a plus.

Addressing my concerns in a bulleted format is quite concise and easy to understand.

Communication is about addressing information concisely, not the quantity. hence a bulleted format. I am not going to write a one liner stating "I need an accountant" and provide no backend information, to do that would be absurd and incredibly naïve.

If an accountant is serious about their work, they will take the time to read bulleted information. After all, I am going to be hiring someone. To think otherwise is erroneous.

A face-to-face is not going to happen anytime soon. If we were in a different situation I would have not posted here. I would have gladly gone in person.

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By stepurhan
10th Mar 2021 14:34

Antone Wilkins wrote:

Addressing my concerns in a bulleted format is quite concise and easy to understand.

Communication is about addressing information concisely, not the quantity. hence a bulleted format. I am not going to write a one liner stating "I need an accountant" and provide no backend information, to do that would be absurd and incredibly naïve.

To think that putting all the information in bulleted format is necessary, if all you want is an accountant, is incredibly naive.

As for your formatting being "concise and easy to understand", it actually makes it harder to follow. You have included a point about expenses generally under the heading travelling (or were you only interested in travelling expenses and don't care about any others?) You also offer the services of "Future plans" and "We have no physical products". Yes, I can understand what you are talking about, but it is my reading comprehension skills, not your communication skills, doing the heavy lifting for that.

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A face-to-face is not going to happen anytime soon. If we were in a different situation I would have not posted here. I would have gladly gone in person.

I did not say that a face to face would happen now. Indeed, I made it clear that it won't happen now.

But an accountant should be a long-term relationship. Choosing one you would be able to meet face to face, when circumstances allow, could be beneficial to you.

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By Antone Wilkins
10th Mar 2021 15:03

stepurhan wrote:

Antone Wilkins wrote:

Addressing my concerns in a bulleted format is quite concise and easy to understand.

Communication is about addressing information concisely, not the quantity. hence a bulleted format. I am not going to write a one liner stating "I need an accountant" and provide no backend information, to do that would be absurd and incredibly naïve.

To think that putting all the information in bulleted format is necessary, if all you want is an accountant, is incredibly naive.

As for your formatting being "concise and easy to understand", it actually makes it harder to follow. You have included a point about expenses generally under the heading travelling (or were you only interested in travelling expenses and don't care about any others?) You also offer the services of "Future plans" and "We have no physical products". Yes, I can understand what you are talking about, but it is my reading comprehension skills, not your communication skills, doing the heavy lifting for that.

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A face-to-face is not going to happen anytime soon. If we were in a different situation I would have not posted here. I would have gladly gone in person.

I did not say that a face to face would happen now. Indeed, I made it clear that it won't happen now.

But an accountant should be a long-term relationship. Choosing one you would be able to meet face to face, when circumstances allow, could be beneficial to you.

Evidently you missed the point. I cannot list down every single detail in a post. That would be a burden. I have outlined key points. And when I choose an accountant I will then discuss with that person in detail those aspects, in depth of course.

Bullet point(s) outline key bits of information without going into extensive detail. That is its function. Extensive information is then followed up accordingly if need be. Obviously from your perspective that is evident.

To assume I only need an accountant is a misstep on your behalf. That might be the case, or it might not. Maybe I require other services or maybe not. I will not know unless I ask. I'm not the expert here. My expertise lie elsewhere.

If you can clearly understand what I'm referring to. Then someone who is familiar with the topic (An accountant) will have a broader perspective and experience. Just like if you were to ask me about neurological dendrites and their fractal patterns. I can most certainly dumb it down for you to understand it and of course guide you when you try to understand it's concepts.

So far I have sent this post to no less than seven different accountants/Companies in the past 3.5 hours. Of which:

- 4, 90% - understand what I am saying. (Some clearing up as necessary)
- 2, Have some pertinent questions
- 1, still waiting for a response

- 3, have Offered a comprehensive packages Including legal support as well as guidance on digital services and VAT.

If your reading comprehension is unable to understand the tenor of the post. Then some extensive experiences needed and/or some follow-up conversations. A bit of investigation. You preach the idea of having a long-term relationship with your accountant. One would assume that your accountant would have time for a nice conversation and to further understand the needs of the client.

Regarding face-to-face. I think you clearly missed the phrase "A face-to-face is not going to happen anytime soon"! That refers to now and the foreseeable future. When things settle down; which could take, who knows how long. I will take the appropriate steps to meet my accountant and if need be my legal representatives face-to-face. In the meantime, Skype is a fantastic communication tool as well as zoom. If you want to take the professional approach I strongly suggest Microsoft teams.

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By Hugo Fair
10th Mar 2021 15:41

"So far I have sent this post to no less than seven different accountants/Companies in the past 3.5 hours. Of which:
- 4, 90% - understand what I am saying. (Some clearing up as necessary)
- 2, Have some pertinent questions
- 1, still waiting for a response"

If you're designing IT support & training online materials, you might want to employ someone with basic maths even before an Accountant ... 4 out of 7 companies is 57% (not 90%).

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By stepurhan
10th Mar 2021 17:04

Antone Wilkins wrote:

If your reading comprehension is unable to understand the tenor of the post.


I clearly said my reading comprehension allowed me to understand your post, I just said the way you had laid it out made it hard to follow. Clearly your communication skills need more work than I anticipated if you did not understand me literally saying exactly that.

Oddly enough, I could not be bothered with the rest of your "advice" after that. Good luck to your new accountant. I think they are going to need it.

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By Antone Wilkins
10th Mar 2021 17:25

Good luck is not needed. Common sense, logic as well as appropriate steps are what is needed. Please refrain from responding to this post as you have not contributed anything of value nor will you. So you are wasting everyone's time.

Also, please try to hold back on your passive-aggressive tendencies. I can see them a mile away as per my expertise require me to do so.

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By Matrix
10th Mar 2021 13:32

I would ensure the accountant is up to date on VAT, including online and digital services.

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By Antone Wilkins
10th Mar 2021 13:40

Matrix wrote:

I would ensure the accountant is up to date on VAT, including online and digital services.

Thank you for the useful information. I will be sure to add that to my list.

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By paul.benny
10th Mar 2021 14:19

And particularly with supply of services to EU customers. That's one of the most difficult areas of VAT.

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By Antone Wilkins
10th Mar 2021 14:22

paul.benny wrote:

And particularly with supply of services to EU customers. That's one of the most difficult areas of VAT.

Thank you very much for the information. I have a question though. do I need to be VAT registered. I would prefer not to be to avoid a lot of complications at least for the first year.

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By Cheshire
10th Mar 2021 14:34

That's a question for your new accountant based on several factors.

Matrix and Paul are looking ahead, hence the suggestions, its called tax 'planning'. Be silly to get an Accountant who cannot deal with the current and future potential issues and worldwide stuff wouldn't it.

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By Matrix
10th Mar 2021 14:49

There is no threshold for digital services.

Antone - You will need bespoke advice as previously advised, but from 6 April not when you reach the UK threshold. Try Simply VAT for EU registrations https://simplyvat.com/

It will depend whether you are offering live services or downloads etc but I am not in a position to advise you, you will need to read up.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/the-vat-rules-if-you-supply-digital-services...

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By Cheshire
10th Mar 2021 14:58

Shows I shouldve read the whole of OP's post properly, I just got bored after the first couple of lines and jumped to the end. But tailored advice is an absolute must here, especially after the inital post a while back plus the things this OP thinks are 'facts'

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By Antone Wilkins
10th Mar 2021 15:12

Matrix wrote:

There is no threshold for digital services.

Antone - You will need bespoke advice as previously advised, but from 6 April not when you reach the UK threshold. Try Simply VAT for EU registrations https://simplyvat.com/

It will depend whether you are offering live services or downloads etc but I am not in a position to advise you, you will need to read up.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/the-vat-rules-if-you-supply-digital-services...

Thank you very much matrix. Your information is greatly appreciated!!!!! Please let me offer you a virtual beer!

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By Antone Wilkins
10th Mar 2021 15:24

Matrix wrote:

There is no threshold for digital services.

Antone - You will need bespoke advice as previously advised, but from 6 April not when you reach the UK threshold. Try Simply VAT for EU registrations https://simplyvat.com/

It will depend whether you are offering live services or downloads etc but I am not in a position to advise you, you will need to read up.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/the-vat-rules-if-you-supply-digital-services...

I have a question. Must I be VAT registered? As I would like to be a sole trader and will earn less than £85,000 ( Corrected! More than £85,000). Is there any reason for me to be VAT registered?

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By Matrix
10th Mar 2021 15:19

Why don’t you test out the accountants who have quoted to see if they can answer your query? This will help you choose.

But take time to read the link.

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By Cheshire
10th Mar 2021 15:33

Already answered.

Wrong vat threshold (edited after OP edited - still wrong)

Check out ACCA find an Accountant,just to answer Arthur, in part at least.

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By Antone Wilkins
10th Mar 2021 15:49

Cheshire wrote:

Already answered.

Wrong vat threshold (edited after OP edited - still wrong)

Check out ACCA find an Accountant,just to answer Arthur, in part at least.

Actually it is corrected. Unless the government website is wrong I believe it is more than £85,000.

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By Cheshire
10th Mar 2021 15:56

Wrong vat threshold.

Thats the problem with only taking one part of HMRC dumbed down information as covering your individual scenario.

Your new Accountant will explain this in full, alongside answering all your other indepth questions, as well as some of the low hanging fruit type questions dropped into your original OP.

Sounds like you are well on your way to finding someone, just dont choose on price.

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By Antone Wilkins
10th Mar 2021 16:35

Cheshire wrote:

Wrong vat threshold.

Thats the problem with only taking one part of HMRC dumbed down information as covering your individual scenario.

Your new Accountant will explain this in full, alongside answering all your other indepth questions, as well as some of the low hanging fruit type questions dropped into your original OP.

Sounds like you are well on your way to finding someone, just dont choose on price.

So the government website is wrong. I think not under normal circumstances. As a number it is correct. There may be mitigating circumstances which changes the VAT amount, but that does not detract from the website showing £85,000 and above.

"You must register your business for VAT with HM Revenue and Customs (HMRC) if its VAT taxable turnover is more than £85,000".

Unique circumstances are exactly that. I have quite a few colleagues who have businesses who comply with that threshold. So under normal circumstances the VAT threshold is not incorrect.

Regarding price I agree with you. As long as it is fair and just, I do not mind paying for peace of mind but I am not going to be robbed blindly! There are quite a few crooked accountants!

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By Hugo Fair
10th Mar 2021 17:19

You'll never know if you're being robbed blind, unless you open your eyes (and ears) first.
On the evidence of this thread so far, it appears that you prize highly those who agree with you and tell you what you want to hear ... which, if not based on detailed facts and in-depth knowledge, is a perfect way of attracting a 'crooked accountant' (or indeed a charlatan from any other profession).

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By Antone Wilkins
10th Mar 2021 17:28

Hugo Fair wrote:

You'll never know if you're being robbed blind, unless you open your eyes (and ears) first.
On the evidence of this thread so far, it appears that you prize highly those who agree with you and tell you what you want to hear ... which, if not based on detailed facts and in-depth knowledge, is a perfect way of attracting a 'crooked accountant' (or indeed a charlatan from any other profession).

Thank you for stating the obvious. But exactly rocket science. actually no. You are sorely mistaken. Links have been provided and I have read through them as well as thanked anyone who has provided information which I collated on a document.

I suggest you re-read the posts.

So far, I haven't praised anyone except for thanking them for giving me some information which has yet to be validated on my above stated collated document.

Thanking someone for information is not high praise. It is just basic decency.

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By Hugo Fair
10th Mar 2021 17:46

Why on earth would I want to "re-read the posts"? Although that suggestion might apply to you as you appear to have confused my reference to "prize highly" with the topic of "high praise" that you have separately invented.
Nevertheless I have no further interest in what you've turned into a forum for picking arguments ... despite the perfectly good info that you've acquired for free, but apparently don't value.

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By Antone Wilkins
10th Mar 2021 18:03

First of all. Yes you're right about the high prize part. A simple mistake.

Second of all. I'm in the pursuit of an accountant. It's the same as getting some kind of free consultation if you are familiar with that phrase. I've already had 2 via phone. Quite insightful.

The information I have acquired I have thanked the individuals. But those who have replied with a childish comments. I have and will respond accordingly.

By the way. I responded to individuals and their vulgar or pleasant comments. How am I picking a fight? Difficult to pick a fight if I'm only responding to some sideway comments. And the keyword is respond. Or would you just expect for me to roll over. I doubt that very much!

Maybe instead of criticising the post. You could come up with something a bit more productive and say. Can you please identify the top three things? You know, because this is a forum. And people do ask questions? And not everyone is an accountant.

If you want to provide key level specifics. Put part of the forum room behind a pay wall. I could not see that feature. I would be more than happily l pay a monthly fee without receiving sarcastic responses.

Good day

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By Cheshire
10th Mar 2021 18:10

Antone Wilkins wrote:

First of all. Yes you're right about the high prize part. A simple mistake.

Second of all. I'm in the pursuit of an accountant. It's the same as getting some kind of free consultation if you are familiar with that phrase. I've already had 2 via phone. Quite insightful.

The information I have acquired I have thanked the individuals. But those who have replied with a childish comments. I have and will respond accordingly.

By the way. I responded to individuals and their vulgar or pleasant comments. How am I picking a fight? Difficult to pick a fight if I'm only responding to some sideway comments. And the keyword is respond. Or would you just expect for me to roll over. I doubt that very much!

Maybe instead of criticising the post. You could come up with something a bit more productive and say. Can you please identify the top three things? You know, because this is a forum. And people do ask questions? And not everyone is an accountant.

If you want to provide key level specifics. Put part of the forum room behind a pay wall. I could not see that feature. I would be more than happily l pay a monthly fee without receiving sarcastic responses.

Good day

This is a forum for Accountants to exchange information.

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By Cheshire
10th Mar 2021 18:10

Antone Wilkins wrote:

First of all. Yes you're right about the high prize part. A simple mistake.

Second of all. I'm in the pursuit of an accountant. It's the same as getting some kind of free consultation if you are familiar with that phrase. I've already had 2 via phone. Quite insightful.

The information I have acquired I have thanked the individuals. But those who have replied with a childish comments. I have and will respond accordingly.

By the way. I responded to individuals and their vulgar or pleasant comments. How am I picking a fight? Difficult to pick a fight if I'm only responding to some sideway comments. And the keyword is respond. Or would you just expect for me to roll over. I doubt that very much!

Maybe instead of criticising the post. You could come up with something a bit more productive and say. Can you please identify the top three things? You know, because this is a forum. And people do ask questions? And not everyone is an accountant.

If you want to provide key level specifics. Put part of the forum room behind a pay wall. I could not see that feature. I would be more than happily l pay a monthly fee without receiving sarcastic responses.

Good day

This is a forum for Accountants to exchange information.

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By Cheshire
10th Mar 2021 18:10

Antone Wilkins wrote:

First of all. Yes you're right about the high prize part. A simple mistake.

Second of all. I'm in the pursuit of an accountant. It's the same as getting some kind of free consultation if you are familiar with that phrase. I've already had 2 via phone. Quite insightful.

The information I have acquired I have thanked the individuals. But those who have replied with a childish comments. I have and will respond accordingly.

By the way. I responded to individuals and their vulgar or pleasant comments. How am I picking a fight? Difficult to pick a fight if I'm only responding to some sideway comments. And the keyword is respond. Or would you just expect for me to roll over. I doubt that very much!

Maybe instead of criticising the post. You could come up with something a bit more productive and say. Can you please identify the top three things? You know, because this is a forum. And people do ask questions? And not everyone is an accountant.

If you want to provide key level specifics. Put part of the forum room behind a pay wall. I could not see that feature. I would be more than happily l pay a monthly fee without receiving sarcastic responses.

Good day

This is a forum for Accountants to exchange information.

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By Cheshire
10th Mar 2021 18:14

Where did I say the government was incorrect?

I didnt. You need to improve your reading skills.

But also, you need to give full facts, because some folk on here have responded directly to information provided above, whereas you have now given additional information on the other forum. Which goes to prove why members of the public should not rely on information provided on this site to sort their tax affairs.

Im sure when you actually appoint your Accountant that they will tease full correct facts out of you, unless you course a crooked one of course.

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By Antone Wilkins
10th Mar 2021 18:36

I suggest you read again. As per my post. I am collecting information. I can do that on my own accord and bring it to an accountant as well as making use of a public forums. Keyword public.

I cannot give every single piece of detail as the post would be too long. That's why if someone evaluated and feels that they could be a good fit. They would contact me.

And guess what. An accountant will explain things to me because I am paying them.

Having spoken to a few accountants already. I have narrowed down the information quite considerably.

Please refrain from responding.

For those who are in a similar situation. Please feel free to send me a PM and I can share the information I have acquired thus far. When I have a definitive answer as well as an appropriate protocol. I will be sure to share it with you. Also when I pay for a tax advisor I am more than happy to share the information.

*This comment has been moderated.*

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By Antone Wilkins
10th Mar 2021 15:09

Cheshire wrote:

That's a question for your new accountant based on several factors.

Matrix and Paul are looking ahead, hence the suggestions, its called tax 'planning'. Be silly to get an Accountant who cannot deal with the current and future potential issues and worldwide stuff wouldn't it.

What I appreciate the information. And I've noted it down and this will allow me to establish key factors when choosing the appropriate accountant or comprehensive company providing all the necessary services. Someone who is not familiar with this realm so to speak. Every piece of information is invaluable.

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11th Mar 2021 09:08

Antone Wilkins wrote:

What I appreciate the information. And I've noted it down and this will allow me to establish key factors when choosing the appropriate accountant or comprehensive company providing all the necessary services. Someone who is not familiar with this realm so to speak. Every piece of information is invaluable.

You haven't read the perfectly good information you've been given thus far. At 12:49 on 10/3/21 Matrix told you that the VAT threshold doesn't apply to your situation, and gave you a link to the HMRC guidance outlining how VAT for digital services works when supplying to the EU.

At 15:24, 15:49, and 16:35 you demonstrate you have either not read it or read it and not understood it, and believe the registration threshold for your business to be £85,000.

That figure is not wrong, it applies to nearly all businesses, but not yours. This fact is not hidden in a link deep within a hard to read document, it was in the first line of the post I mentioned.

This failure to digest the good answers you were given is the source of frustration for many of those posts surrounding you in this thread, that and the supercilious manner you adopt while doing so.

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By scalloway
10th Mar 2021 16:51

I have replied to your post on UK Business Forums.

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By Antone Wilkins
10th Mar 2021 17:34

Thank you very much

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By paul.benny
10th Mar 2021 20:42

@OP

You've had some good advice and some snarky comments. Sometimes from the same person - which doesn't necessarily mean the advice is bad.

Most of the questions in your op are not contentious. As you probably know from your own field, the difficulty arises when people don't know what it is they don't know. In your case, that seems to be around VAT on digital services. And a beauty parade based on your opening questions may not help you.

Unfortunately internet forums can sometimes be merciless and regrettably you're seeing some of that here.

If you really want to get your accounting and tax compliance right, take on board the advice given here on that subject. In that area, we (collectively) do know what we're talking about. With the caveat that we can only be as good as the information given.

And now, I'm out.

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By Antone Wilkins
10th Mar 2021 22:15

paul.benny wrote:

@OP

You've had some good advice and some snarky comments. Sometimes from the same person - which doesn't necessarily mean the advice is bad.

Most of the questions in your op are not contentious. As you probably know from your own field, the difficulty arises when people don't know what it is they don't know. In your case, that seems to be around VAT on digital services. And a beauty parade based on your opening questions may not help you.

Unfortunately internet forums can sometimes be merciless and regrettably you're seeing some of that here.

If you really want to get your accounting and tax compliance right, take on board the advice given here on that subject. In that area, we (collectively) do know what we're talking about. With the caveat that we can only be as good as the information given.

And now, I'm out.

Hello Paul.

I have used many Internet forums in my time. But as before I'm gathering information which I can bring to the table with my accountant.

I understand that you can only be as good as the information I provide. But in my case I'm not a professional accountant. The information I stated may be of pertinence from my perspective and irrelevant to others, But I will not know if I do not ask. Through the process of acquiring and analysing the data, a solution will be derived and things will be concluded accordingly.

My post was never meant to be contentious. I was expressing my point of view and if it were badly expressed. Then people should try to help each other in a better way than using frivolous snarky comments which is just a waste of energy.

Paul thank you very much and have a pleasant evening.

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By Tallula Brogan
11th Mar 2021 11:18

Hi everyone, the moderating team have decided to close further comments on this thread. Thank you for your input.

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