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Submit Tax return without agent authorisation

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Can someone please recomend me a software which allow me to personal tax return and also company tax return without having agent authorisation. 

 

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By SBB
04th Dec 2019 13:25

Most commercial software allows you to submit Tax Returns yourself without using an agent although you would need a government gateway user ID and password for yourself and the company.

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By lionofludesch
04th Dec 2019 14:29

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Most commercial software allows you to submit Tax Returns yourself without using an agent although you would need a government gateway user ID and password for yourself and the company.

Top answer.

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By Paul D Utherone
04th Dec 2019 13:28

How many? Taxfiler might be an option.

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By SXGuy
04th Dec 2019 13:49

Loads of software but you still need an agent gateway or clients gateway details first.

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By Wanderer
04th Dec 2019 13:54

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Hi

Can someone please recomend me a software which allow me to personal tax return and also company tax return without having agent authorisation. 

 

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Are you Suzi23?
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By Joe Alderson
05th Dec 2019 10:18

No, this is Suzi24.

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By bernard michael
04th Dec 2019 14:18

Clarification

Are you the taxpayer or the agent ??

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By Tim Vane
05th Dec 2019 03:58

All commercial software allows agents to submit returns on behalf of any taxpayer, even where a 64-8 is not in place. You just need your agent gateway details and the client’s UTR.

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By johnhemming
05th Dec 2019 07:27

This, of course, changes with mtd so that authorisation is required.

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By Matrix
05th Dec 2019 09:01

Surely you mean will be required and not is required, as there are currently no MTD submissions for income tax and corporation tax, just VAT where you have always had to be the agent?

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By johnhemming
05th Dec 2019 12:46

It is not so much as there are "no" submissions for ITSA, but that there are "very few" submissions for ITSA.

I don't know precisely how many overall, but I have three NINOs set up for the pilot scheme for ITSA although I am only doing submissions for one of them at the moment.

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By lionofludesch
05th Dec 2019 09:28

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This, of course, changes with mtd so that authorisation is required.

Oooh ! Another improvement !

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By johnhemming
05th Dec 2019 12:47

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Oooh ! Another improvement !


That, of course, is a question. There may be people who think having a system whereby any agent can submit data for any client is a good idea. I am not actually one of that group of people.
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By Wanderer
05th Dec 2019 13:29

Well what about the fact that HMRC take weeks to issue authorisation codes, sometimes don't issue them at all and their various other systems for getting authorisation are so weak and often fall over?

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By johnhemming
05th Dec 2019 13:51

The agents API is really quite fast and can be used for ITSA.

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By Wanderer
05th Dec 2019 15:11

John. surely you can't have overlooked the problems we've all had with VAT MTD, particularly as you've helped on most of the discussions! HMRC systems are cumbersome, un-intuitive frequently change, frequently fall over and, quite honestly, HMRC would have gone bust by now as a result of their systems if they were a proper organisation with proper customers and subject to normal commercial pressures.

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By johnhemming
05th Dec 2019 15:45

It remains, however, that the newer authorisation system is quite fast. There are issues with it and the relationship between it a 64-8 (which I have raised with HMRC), but it is not slow. It does not require paperwork to travel in the post.

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By Wanderer
05th Dec 2019 17:41

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It remains, however, that the newer authorisation system is quite fast. There are issues with it and the relationship between it a 64-8 (which I have raised with HMRC), but it is not slow. It does not require paperwork to travel in the post.

When it works!
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By lionofludesch
05th Dec 2019 15:39

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Oooh ! Another improvement !

That, of course, is a question. There may be people who think having a system whereby any agent can submit data for any client is a good idea. I am not actually one of that group of people.

A bit rich, John.

A couple of weeks ago you were whinging about rounding up £1.33 to £2. "It's not accurate !!" you wailed.

Now you're happy that folk can submit any old tosh - provided it's their own tosh.

You make an assumption very common with Government agencies - that the taxpayer/trader/whatever is competent.

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By johnhemming
05th Dec 2019 15:42

I would think it is consistent to wish to ensure that agents are authorised by a client to enter data into a system before they do so.

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By Joe Alderson
05th Dec 2019 10:26

If you are an agent you should definitely not need to ask this question, but you aren't an agent are you. Your agent will be able to submit these for you.

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