Being a bit of a car guy so thought I'd look to see if there were any decent electric vehicles I could lease, I was thinking the taycan/etron gt or even a model 3 but the monthly’s are pretty steep for what they are which balances out the tax savings somewhat. I guess the cheap lease deals disappeared with the chip shortages, maybe I should look at a classic. Hmm.
Anyone on here got a EV or interesting car you run?
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I want to get a Citroen Ami - but my tastes lie at the other end of the motoring scale..
(first cars Mini, Fiat 126)..
I have decided that until Hydrogen cars come along, my next car will be a plug-in hybrid.
It does not make a lot of sense to pay for high priced petrol or diesel to generate the electricity for a hybrid vehicle that is not a plug in, whereas a plug-in hybrid will potentially allow for a full days all electric driving on cheap electricity and still eliminate range anxiety on a longer journey.
In my opinion, "all electric" cars still do not give range security and it will take a long time for them to become a serious option over the hybrid.
pretty happy with a reliable range on my tesla. they have now started putting in double-fast chargers so the car can be done before I am on the inevitable stops you need anyway, e.g. for the loo or just to break up a long journey. There ARE places that might be more challenging to plan for that I have yet been to but so far very happy, have had only one or two near misses, e.g. drive on the flat for ages then imagine the mileage will exactly work on mountains, which I don't think it does
A few of our clients are leasing Polestars, look like a really nice car
Me... I am sticking with the XFR, its going up in value :-)
I had a gold 5.3 litre XJS which was just fantastic. The fuel consumption was a bit heavy at 14 mpg, but fuel was a lot cheaper in those days.
That's the pre face lift V12, mine is a face lift 4lt str6 get about 22 mpg
If you still know the reg I can see if its still around, as I help run the XJS club
I get 14/15 mpg with the XFR but that 5ltr V8 super charged
Probably the best Jaguar I had was the 4.2 Litre V8. This was a super car in a light golden colour with cream leather interior which always turned heads as it glided by.
Needs are a bit more practical these days with the upright driving position of Land Rovers fitting the bill better.
I have a signal red V12 the same age, have a lot of fun and am losing nothing in depreciation.
Loving our 69 plate Jaguar iPace. Bought it outright rather leasing though. Range not an issue for us as it's used mostly for local running.
Needed a little tweak to the air con & a high voltage sensor when we first collected, but Jag Asssist collected it and dropped off another iPace while it gt fixed. They had it a week or so as the part was on back order, so they gave us £250 towards a slap up meal at their expense. Other than that, it's been great.
My son in laws ipace was off the road for over three months waiting for a part.
They gave him a diesel Volvo XC90 to use, his fuel bills have been horrendous.
My secretary has just managed to get a full refund on her pace due to all the faults.
Have a Hyundai Ioniq 5 EV.
Have a smart meter at home and lucky enough to have a driveway so that I could install an EV charger. Using Octopus Go energy tariff, so 5p an hour between midnight and 4am and that is plenty to keep the battery topped up.
Prices new and on lease are crazy, nobody seems to be making cars, so there's next to no new stock whether petrol, diesel or electric. As we all know, the 2nd hand car market is cray too.
Obviously the Taycan and e-Tron are a level above the Model 3, so not comparable. If, however, you were genuinely looking at the Model 3 I's suggest chucking that idea and looking at the i4 instead, which is a much better alternative IMHO.
'Obviously the Taycan and e-Tron are a level above the Model 3'
One of my clients bought a 300Kw e-tron a couple of years ago which suited him well for his daily commute. This was recently exchanged for a 375Kw e-tron.
At the outset of a fairly long journey in the new e-tron, the range was showing as 240 miles. He put on the satnav to plot in the journey and immediately the range dropped to 200 miles.
There was a lot of range anxiety during that journey which was only relived by the sight of a charging socket at the end.
TBH by a level above i mean, generally, in price terms. Not just the GT, ive not seen clients with Taycan or Etron vehicles much below £100k*
On the other hand, the model 3, or even the i4, can be had for around £60k*
* I appreciate you 'can' get them cheaper looking at the 'OTR from' figures - but in reality by the time you stick a couple of (not always absolutely) essential options on, you are looking at about these figures.
Mine old Jag in badge only (x-type) is 16 years young and starting to rust.
Its getting to the "car worth less than my daily rate" scenario.
I looked at replacing with an electric car by my brain would not compute the concept of blowing £50k on a an electric car despite having £150k in reserves in the business and the sizeable tax breaks. I barely use the thing anyway, annual mileage under 5k for the past 10 years.
The Mrs's car is nearly 20 years old. Still runs sweetly.
Get one over 15 years old, put it on classic car insurance. Then the benefit is on current value, not list price.
We had an 'All Wheel Drive' X Type of which it seems there were only about 8,000 made. Genuine 4 Wheel Drive all of the time and you would have had to drive it to appreciate the term ' like running on rails'.
It started to develop problems with the the air conditioning and other fairly minor but expensive to repair components, and had to go.
We used to use a Main Jaguar and Land Rover Dealer for servicing but despite the 'Above and Beyond' catch line, we found the service was anything but this, and was pretty poor in the end despite the huge charges, so we now use a well established local garage who really understand the meaning of Above and Beyond.
mines got a number of electrical faults around the central locking/alarm but runs really well so I don't mind. Even the garage says is runs beautifully (local chap) it hasn't even done 100k miles yet, the engine is good for 250k. I took off the poncy alloys a few year back as they air leaked from too many pot holes and put on some old school steel rims an the ride is very smooth now you can go over all sorts and it just takes it.
Its really only the bodywork which is an issue as it sits outside and is slowly rusting. You know when they talk about welding at the MOT its getting a bit long in the tooth.....but whilst it goes there doesn't seem much point changing it especially how second hand prices are.
Electric cars are not environmentally friendly. They require too much lithium, cobalt and nickel.
It's the bit that everyone (or at least every politician) conveniently forgets ... energy generation is only one part (the lesser) of the problem - energy storage is the killer.
And not just in terms of the rare materials, but in efficiency & capacity plus the infrastructure to deliver it to where it's needed.
Of course that's before you attempt to account for the 'environmental cost' of manufacturing the new car (and transporting it across the globe) ... or of disposing of the old car (very little of which is recycled) ... or of maintaining those parts of the car that are virtually unchanged (starting with the tyres).
And I like cars!
The most eco-friendly car that you could possible have is the one that you have now. It doesn't have to be made again.
Got an EV (and love it) but not one you'd be interested in (a Kia eNiro)
There are firms that will convert ICE vehicles to EV now at not too desperate a cost.
Electric vehicles are crap...do you realise how much pollution is involved in lithium mining ..musk is a scammer , his business model depends on government subsidies and incentives...
2001 110 Defender twelve seater. Exempt from depreciation, and therefore the ultimate accountant's car. A little thirsty so kept close to home.
Here's a cautionary but true tale about the downside of buying an electric vehicle; by an electrician, no less. Watch him blow a fuse as his new van under-performs and screws up his day.
We are interested in buying BMW iX3.
Love this car. However not cheap. By the way interest charge on Jaguar ipace only 1.6% on new one. Still monthly comes to about £600.
I only wondering about how to split cost for use between two companies.
We would buy this car by one company and I think should lease to the other.
There would be a personal use as well.
Could anyone suggest how to do it?
One of options which I consider is to divide based on miles. Issue a monthly bill to the company which use it, from company which own it. For personal use, not sure how to do it. May be just just use HMRC calculator, or should I assess based on personal miles as well or because it can use daily just use HMRC calculator for full year benefit?
Any suggestions please?
I'll pass about my Triumph Vitesse MkII convertible in British Racing Green...
Strongly suggest you get a hybrid until we get more charging posts: even in central London they are difficult to find. I'm perfectly happy with my DS7 Crossback; 4x4 when needed and with a wicked "sports" mode when I see completely empty road ahead....
Hi Car guy
I have a Jag iPace and love it, however the practicalities of charging are a challenge and 'if I knew then what I know now' I would have opted for a Tesla purely for the availability of the superfast chargers.
I do long trips of at lease 200 miles and is a fine art to get the timing of any journey accurate and very few hotel that my meetings are held at, have EV charging so very often I spend the night before in a different hotel with EV charging and move to the meeting venue on the day instead of me traditional practice of hitting the venue the night before.
My home charger also required my electrician to add a separate and upgraded supply to my garage in order to get the 7KW charging option. The press imply the home charging point is a matter of hanging something on the wall, the 3Kw maybe but that takes a full day to charge the car from low, it's like plugging into a 3 pin plug socket so I opted to upgrade.
I also purchased my car but seeing how quickly the technology is changing, I will be opting for a lease when I change this vehicle.
I don't know if that is any help but I do love my EV and would highly recommend.
Hi Car guy
I have a Jag iPace and love it, however the practicalities of charging are a challenge and 'if I knew then what I know now' I would have opted for a Tesla purely for the availability of the superfast chargers.
I do long trips of at lease 200 miles and is a fine art to get the timing of any journey accurate and very few hotel that my meetings are held at, have EV charging so very often I spend the night before in a different hotel with EV charging and move to the meeting venue on the day instead of me traditional practice of hitting the venue the night before.
My home charger also required my electrician to add a separate and upgraded supply to my garage in order to get the 7KW charging option. The press imply the home charging point is a matter of hanging something on the wall, the 3Kw maybe but that takes a full day to charge the car from low, it's like plugging into a 3 pin plug socket so I opted to upgrade.
I also purchased my car but seeing how quickly the technology is changing, I will be opting for a lease when I change this vehicle.
I don't know if that is any help but I do love my EV and would highly recommend.
Mrs MK chose a Kia Soul as her EV. As she says it looks ugly but performs well - well I think she was talking about the car to her friends and not me
Range is a reliable 235 miles on a quoted poss of 280 mile
Quite fun to drive as there is plenty of oomph and I like scaring folks in car parks when you quietly roll up behind them