Tax after sale campervan

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Hello, I live permanently in Poland, but I buy vans in England, convert them into campers in Poland and sell them back to England. My question is whether and what taxes I have to pay if I don't live in England after selling the Campervan

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By Chessaccountant
31st Jan 2024 13:56

I strongly recommend you approach an accountant for advice on this. It is potentially quite a minefield.

FYI - this is really a forum for accountants and not a site for free advice. Taking advice here offers you no protection and there's no guarantee it will be correct as any reply would be based on very limited information. A qualified accountant will be able to gather the appropriate information from you and will be more able to give advice which you can rely on.

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By Ciapekwrz
31st Jan 2024 22:20

Thank You for your time where I can Finde that information

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By paul.benny
31st Jan 2024 15:37

+1

I'm sure you've also considered the need for approval of each vehicle after conversion: https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-approval/individual-vehicle-approval

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By DKB-Sheffield
31st Jan 2024 22:44

Your post seems to suggest you are already doing this?!

How are you exporting and importing? Are you buying a van (for cash?), driving it to Poland, bringing it back, and selling it (for cash?)? Or, are you declaring imports and exports?

Do you have an accountant in Poland?

Cross border transactions, potential trade in UK, potential trade in Poland, VAT on export and import... and as Paul says... DVLA (and potentially DVSA) to deal with...! There is almost certainly more to consider (insurance?). And by the sounds of it... this is all back-to-front (plan, then do... not v/v).

Not one for a public forum, and not one for me.

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By Ciapekwrz
02nd Feb 2024 08:13

Hi I have person In Uk who buy vans for me I fly to uk drive van to Poland and when car is ready I drive back to Uk i buy road tax and insurance in UK

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By FactChecker
02nd Feb 2024 11:17

Yeah, and ...?
Suggest you seriously consider the questions asked by DKB (that only scrape the top of the mountain of trading/accounting/taxation issues of which you appear to be oblivious) + don't forget the point raised by paul.benny (without which what you sell isn't even legal).

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By Ciapekwrz
02nd Feb 2024 12:21

I have english account revolut i sale and buy vans only by bank transfer .also when van is ready I send all documents to DVLA and they decide if van has been converted to be safe and meets all requirements, and V5 can be change from van to campervan.
so why should it be illegal??

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By FactChecker
02nd Feb 2024 13:01

I'm no expert in campervan conversions, but paul.benny provided a link to a site that sets out (some of) the steps needed to make legal the process you described.
If you are fully complying with those then you're fine (on that aspect), if not then it is illegal.
You never responded to his point - so I simply reminded you of that requirement.

But doing this once is not the same as doing it regularly (which constitutes a trade) ... leading to the kind of questions raised by DKB (and many more).
You really need professional advice - this will not be seen as a kind of hobby.

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By paul.benny
02nd Feb 2024 14:52

@OP. With every respect, it sounds like you may be operating outside the law in so many ways.

- On the conversion and DVLA approval. It sounds like you are getting approval as if you are converting the vehicle for your own personal use. Because you are doing this as a business, I believe your vehicles need to be inspected at an official test centre.
- The threshold for VAT registration is sales of >£85,000 per year. Perhaps you should already be registered and charging VAT on your sales?
- There are specific requirements when temporarily exporting and reimporting vehicles
- There are customs requirements on bringing goods into the UK. Are you declaring your vehicles at the port when you drive then back to UK?
- You may have a Permanent Establishment for tax purposes and so have to make UK filings. And tax paid in UK interacts with tax in Poland.

This forum is not the right place to get personal advice. There are lots of Polish people in UK, so I’m sure you can find a Polish accountant who can advise on the tax-related matters.

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