Tax returns

How many are still doing tax returns?

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21;24 on 31/1  - How many are still doing tax returns I wonder? I have given up but only 2 not done (not my fault!) and told the client it will have to wait so I dont rush and make an error.   Now I wonder how it will be when (if?) MTDfor ITSA comes in? I'll be out by then though (as I can't face it) but I can't begin to imagine the stress of operating in a year of full MTD for ITSA. We(I) / our clients will not cope! Mind you, it surely has to be scrapped at some point, surely?

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By AdamJones82
31st Jan 2024 21:46

I really can't see how it can ever come in. Remember it was announced when George Osborne was Chancellor and it's still no nearer to starting! (Oh, forgive me, we now submit the same VAT box 1-9 figures via a new system now with no extra data sent across)
They are falling apart at the seams trying to keep current operations working, they couldn't manage with MTDfIT as well.
The acronym of MTDfIT needs changing to the meaning MTD? F*** it

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By FactChecker
31st Jan 2024 22:47

.. or even the post-catastrophe analysis (à la Post Office) where it turns out that all along it stood for MTD f***ed IT

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By WinterDragon
31st Jan 2024 23:05

And I think I'm going to call it a night here, there's 3 more on my list I'd hoped to have completed but they are all missing important documents. Perhaps could have straightened them out if they didn't send their records in January. They can take a penalty and hopefully they'll move on next year. Maybe I'll sack them - who knows, that's next January's problem!

Well done everyone, I'm proud of you all

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By Slim
31st Jan 2024 23:31

two outstanding, one hasn’t provided records the other hasn’t paid

And I’ve really had enough of bad payers

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By DKB-Sheffield
31st Jan 2024 23:34

Apart from the 2 who never showed up... I've just got one in the e-sign list (which I'm hoping will be approved once I've finished making a cuppa).

Hoping to be finished for the day soon - earliest night for over a week.

Every year I say "never again", "this won't happen next year", "if clients can't get things in sooner... they'll not get returns filed". I always Every year I buckle.

Still... be it dropping off paper returns, navigating HMRC's early systems, or software filing... there has always been a bit of a last-minute buzz at the tax deadline!

Well done all! Another year, another deadline, another list of PITA clients to cull! Roll on MTD when all of this will be a distant daydream! (Te he)

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By DougScot
31st Jan 2024 23:55

oh FFs only 5 minutes to go i haven't got time to be psotin on social meedya

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By spilly
31st Jan 2024 23:55

2 still waiting on UTRs, but they know they will incur penalties, 1 not responded to our weekly reminders since November. And one took it to the wire on paying us first, despite being told this was a requirement of filing - prat.
Definitely the most relaxed year so far. We had a concerted campaign to get director tax returns filed as soon as the company accounts were done, and also started our sole trader reminders back in July. The latter was less successful, but it did lead to less of a January bottleneck.

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By Cylhia66
01st Feb 2024 05:07

Happy to say I was done a few days ago. This month wasn't as bad as I expected it to be. Well, I really have two to go, but there's an issue with not receiving the agent codes. HMRC is aware of this and said they won't incur penalties.

However at 7pm last night I received 5 desperate WhatsApp messages from an ex-client (a PITA I got rid of ages ago) asking for help! Unbelievable. Needless to say I ignored her messages. Once I'm fully awake I'll reply to her. I'll do my best not to be rude.

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By bettybobbymeggie
01st Feb 2024 07:43

My last was submitted at 23:35 last night but I still have five outstanding...four of whom are serial penalty payers - they seem to like paying HMRC for filing stuff late. Number four is special. A new client who was with his previous for 180 years and never paid a penny in tax and despite me printing off a list of his self assessment payments (the most recent of which was paid in Dec23) he refuses to believe the return is correct. Thankfully he has paid already (and also for the company accounts - which are also wrong). Prat.

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By bernard michael
01st Feb 2024 09:14

I had a call yesterday afternoon ...31st @ 5.32 from someone ( a non client) wanting me to help THEM complete their return.
I would get cancelled if I put into print here my response

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By bettybobbymeggie
01st Feb 2024 09:22

Funnily enough I got a WhatsApp message from the business partner of a client who needed numbers for his DIY return....at 20:15 yesterday evening. Shall we all just go skiing together next January?

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By ireallyshouldknowthisbut
01st Feb 2024 09:24

How can you prepare returns with a few hours to go?

Ie how does the client check the returns, authorise the filing and pay you in time?

I don't get it. Surely there will just be a stack of mistakes. Why don't you just stop working and tell them to XXXX off?

Yes we have one to do.

One was signed at 8.45pm last night and is late filed this morning.
Two prepared months ago and not filed as not signed or paid for. Their problem.

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By Viciuno
01st Feb 2024 09:57

If it takes a few hours to prepare the return, doing it on 31st January rather than in November doesn't effect your ability to complete it accurately if you have all the information.

I'd wager most clients look at the amount to pay and then sign. We have clients that struggle to find the payment refence and how much to pay in the correspondence that goes out to them with the return - highly doubt they are actually checking the return before signing it.

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By I'msorryIhaven'taclue
01st Feb 2024 09:27

I threw the towel in at 8pm last night with three varieties of returns still to go:

* a carrier-bag job that arrived last Friday, currently serving as my footstool;

* an electronic carrier-bag full that arrived Tuesday morning that I might open today if I get bored with VAT returns;

* The oddest of all, a job for a serial latecomer who opened the return but didn't (electronically) sign it, despite our prompting. And after we'd bust a gut to get it finished by Tuesday!

Different types of people, but all with an inflated sense of entitlement.

This past week has lowere my sense of self-worth. And yours too, I expect. Now if FAB were offering assertiveness courses or self-worth programs at their exhibition I might just be tempted to drop in. Or an app that does something useful, like transforming me into Alan Sugar or Duncan Bannatyne!

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By I'msorryIhaven'taclue
01st Feb 2024 09:31

Lordy, and there it is.... the serial latecomer just signed his return at 9.29 this morning. Ludicrous! You're FIRED!!

Excuse me a moment while I take the phone off the hook.

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By lionofludesch
01st Feb 2024 11:30

I'msorryIhaven'taclue wrote:

Lordy, and there it is.... the serial latecomer just signed his return at 9.29 this morning. Ludicrous! You're FIRED!!

Excuse me a moment while I take the phone off the hook.

He'd have been grand a few years ago.

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By neanderthal
01st Feb 2024 09:41

My wife went to her doctor last week and the lady doctor asked, her what does your husband do and my wife replied he is an accountant. the doctor then said, i havent seen my husband for 2 months!

this nonsence which is killing people (not just accountants) has to stop because its evil!!! if it doesnt i will definitely have to do something (mind you i i have said that every year but this year i feel enough is enough!)

And i personally empathise with the guy before me who said we need total rebuilding, physically and mentaly after this!

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By I'msorryIhaven'taclue
01st Feb 2024 13:13

I thought at first you were telling us a joke:

neanderthal wrote:

My wife went to her doctor last week and the lady doctor asked, her what does your husband do and my wife replied he is an accountant. the doctor then said...

...."have you reconciled your differences?"

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By neanderthal
01st Feb 2024 13:31

I dont think you understood it: the lady doctor said she hadnt seen her accountant husband for 2 months because he was too busy with tax returns! perhaps an exaggeration but it describes what accountants go though

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By neanderthal
01st Feb 2024 13:31

I dont think you understood it: the lady doctor said she hadnt seen her accountant husband for 2 months because he was too busy with tax returns! perhaps an exaggeration but it describes what accountants go though

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By I'msorryIhaven'taclue
01st Feb 2024 13:41

Ahha, got it! It was your wife, Neanderthal, who went to the doctor.

neanderthal wrote:

My wife went to her doctor last week and the lady doctor asked, her what does your husband do and my wife replied he is an accountant. the doctor then said...

."...can he walk fully erect?"

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By neanderthal
01st Feb 2024 13:54

!!!

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By I'msorryIhaven'taclue
01st Feb 2024 13:58

Laughter is the best medicine ;)

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