Thoughts on Staffology?

Considering moving to Staffology for payroll, any experience with this?

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We've used Moneysoft for some years now but it is causing us problems now that we are working remotely.  Its the only non-cloud software we use now and as our team are working remotely we keep having issue with duplication of files as I try to review payroll before my payroll assistant completes.  As we have no intention of re-opening our offices and plan to continue with this flexible way of working beyond covid, cloud software is the way forward for us.

I've been playing with Staffology for a few days and really like it, it is more expensive than Moneysoft but still reasonably priced and for the extra benefits seems well worth it.... but before I hit the go button and commit, I'd be really grateful for any advice or insights.  Any issues I'm not seeing?  Or even better cloud alternatives I should be considering?  I absolutely hate learning and intergrating new softwares so want to get this right so I don't have to do it again..  THANK YOU!

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By Crouchy
04th Feb 2021 14:52

Cost is pretty high IMO

plus they're being bought out by Iris so expect those costs to increase

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By Louise76
04th Feb 2021 14:53

Thanks for your reply. Do you have a suggested alternative you could recommed?

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By Crouchy
04th Feb 2021 15:16

what you are already using!

we've yet to see a cloud based system that ticks all the boxes that is well priced

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By Louise76
04th Feb 2021 15:24

Ah I see, Moneysoft no longer meets our needs - cloud is the way forward for us, many thanks for your comments

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By Paul Crowley
04th Feb 2021 15:26

IRIS PAYE system is a pain, And they want to be paid for a full year after you have given up and gone elsewhere

If Staffology gets IRIS Sales admin then make sure you really like the product first

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By John Toon
04th Feb 2021 15:26

Excellent piece of software. As others have said they were recently acquired by Iris and that may taint your view. As for other recommendations see this thread:

https://www.accountingweb.co.uk/any-answers/payroll-software-for-small-sme

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By Arthur Putey
04th Feb 2021 15:55

You can run Brightpay (and probably others) in a pseudo cloud way by storing the data files on Dropbox or similar. You need to avoid conflicted copies of the a company file being created if two of you happened to try and work on it at once. Plus there's the Connect addon for client/employee self-service.

I did look at MyPAYE a while back but it was not quite there but it did appeal because it had some useful HR functionality. Maybe others have taken a more recent look?

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By Louise76
04th Feb 2021 16:08

Yeah, the issue with duplicate copies of files is one of the (several) reasons we want to move to a fully cloud system
Thanks for your reply

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By sarahg
04th Feb 2021 18:25

Have you looked at a hosted desktop solution for this - this is what we are going to do with Moneysoft

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By atleastisoundknowledgable...
04th Feb 2021 18:37

We currently have Moneysoft sat on a laptop which we team viewer onto. I’m considering having this hosted by HDUK @ £40pcm instead.

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By DuaneJAckson
05th Feb 2021 11:48

I know I'm a bit biased, but there really isn't anything else out there in the cloud that comes anywhere close to Staffology in terms of functionality and being built in a modern fashion with a nice UI.

I built it because the older cloud products that had been around since my KashFlow days hasn't innovated at all and the desktop vendors just weren't making any real moves to the cloud.

Interesting to hear the comments on pricing - some saying it's affordable, others that it's expensive, others that its very cheap. To me that confirms it's about right.

It's *always* going to be more expensive than desktop software.

As I wrote when I launched Staffology - the payroll market now is very similar to accounting software 10 years ago. https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/accounting-software-2007-payroll-2019-dua...

Back then KashFlow, Xero and FreeAgent were all deemed as "expensive compared to the one-off cost of Sage 50". There were stop-gaps and halfway houses of "cloud-hosted" stuff (remember the original Sage Live?) before the industry finally came around

Who's putting in desktop accounting software these days?

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By FirstTab
11th Feb 2021 10:45

The issue is Iris takeover and its poor reputation on pricing. After all, Iris is owned by venture capitalists.

What is your view on Iris pricing going forward? You have not addressed this key issue in your comment.

You understandably sold out to make a buck.

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By DuaneJAckson
11th Feb 2021 11:44

FirstTab wrote:

The issue is Iris takeover and its poor reputation on pricing. After all, Iris is owned by venture capitalists.

What is your view on Iris pricing going forward? You have not addressed this key issue in your comment.

You understandably sold out to make a buck.

Hi, check my history - I've really no need to sell out to make a buck : )
I've had multiple multi-million pound exists in the past. Anything additional is what the wealth managers call "excess cash".

I've written about why I sold to IRIS - in short, I'd rather build this in that structure than as a startup. It's not PR fluff, again - check my history - I don't do PR fluff.

IRIS is owned by PE, not VC. There is a subtle difference - but as a customer I'd rather be tied in with a PE backed business (sustainable growth) than a VC backed one (Moonshot)

My personal views on pricing are irrelevant. I don't control that now. I can tell you that there's no plan in IRIS to adjust the Staffology pricing.

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By AdShawBPR
11th Feb 2021 09:46

I used MS for about 10 years and it's been brilliant. It does look a bit dated but it really does do what it says on the tin. Brilliant piece of software IMO. But it's not cloud based and all my other systems are. I've looked at other payroll software offering cloud based functionality with more automation but they never compared to MS in the core functionality. Recently tried Director Pays / Keypay which has loads of functionality and automation but I found the layout very confusing. I came across Staffology about 4 or 5 months ago and have switched about 50 of my 60 payrolls over. I love it and especially the automation aspect. As with MS, most of the functionality is where you expect it to be. It is more expensive than MS - which seems ridiculously cheap - but in terms of value for money, I am very happy to pay that. I was a bit deflated when I saw Iris had acqured the software but so far no issues with that so will plough on and hope this doesn't impact anything. Support has been second to none. I have left a hadfull of payrolls on MS but hope to move them across in April. I am very happy to have switched and would recommend you at least try it out.

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By paul.k2
08th Feb 2022 07:58

Hi,

I looked at Staffology about a year ago for a client and really liked it, but decided against it.

From memory my issue was how data is captured. It seems to be designed to interface with other data capture systems or file uploads.

There wasn't a portal to allow employers or employees enter data themselves.

How are you capturing and entering your data?

Thanks,

Paul

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By 0105993
11th Feb 2021 12:02

I moved from Sage Payroll to Brightpay. Haven't looked back. Easy to use, nice interface, excellent customer service. Linked with Brightpay connect a good portal for communicating with staff and issuing payslips, etc.

Our data files are stored on 365 sharepoint so we can work remotely. You can back up via 'snapshots' method.

Can use a single employer or as a bureau. We have 7 PAYE schemes so use the latter option.

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By Donald MacKenzie
12th Feb 2021 15:49

Look at Brightpay.

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