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Time out - have you downloaded the NHS Covid app?

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What is your view? I downloaded the app but am now wondering if I have given away my soul.

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By WhichTyler
28th Sep 2020 20:52

Yes, and you haven't

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By Cloudcounter
28th Sep 2020 21:01

I've downloaded it. I don't see how you've given away your soul - the first half of your postcode for sure, and I can't remember if there was anything else. Odds are that you've given far more than that to Google or Apple when you set your phone up. Where I am, most of the area covered by that first half is more than four miles away. That's actually under local lockdown and I'm not.

Anyway the app is fairly stupid - I checked in at our local pub last Friday but there's no facility to check out, so the app presumably thinks I'm still up there and will do until I check in to the supermarket on Friday.

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By Wilson Philips
28th Sep 2020 21:15

That’s not how the app is designed to work - it’s not going to follow you around. It simply lets the system know that the holder of the phone was at a certain location on a certain day. No different to signing in manually previously - we never gave notice that we’d left the pub.

And the point about giving a partial postcode is simply to ensure that you are downloading the correct app for your region.

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By WhichTyler
28th Sep 2020 22:37

It checks you out at midnight if you dont check in any where else

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By WhichTyler
28th Sep 2020 22:39

And if you happen to have been somewhere you dont want your loved one/parents/kids finding out about, go About this App>Manage my Data and you can delete the guilty secret...

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By lionofludesch
30th Sep 2020 10:10

WhichTyler wrote:

And if you happen to have been somewhere you dont want your loved one/parents/kids finding out about, go About this App>Manage my Data and you can delete the guilty secret...

Just turn it off.

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By Wilson Philips
28th Sep 2020 22:39

Surely it should be 10pm ;-)

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By New To Accountancy
28th Sep 2020 21:38

Yes I know what you mean, big brother knowing that little bit more about us. On the brightside though, accountants are known for being the most boring people in the world, so hopefully they'll delete your profile as soon as they see your website history, that's what I'm hoping -
Any answers
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By gainsborough
28th Sep 2020 21:43

I currently just have the Kings College London app and report my health status daily. I will download the NHS app if/when I ever have confidence that all the initial reporting problems have been sorted out....

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By WhichTyler
28th Sep 2020 22:34

What initial reporting problems are you referring to? The app doesn't report anything unless you test positive, at which point it uploads the random code you have been beeping out for the last 48 hours. Then it asks everyone else if they ahve been near one of those codes for >15mins, then tells them to isolate & test

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By John Isabel
29th Sep 2020 03:10

There was apparently an issue adding a test result if you hadn’t booked the test in a certain way.

Hardly a reason to defer downloading it TBH - could have been a pain IF you’d had a test but most people haven’t and as such won’t have affected the majority.

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By WhichTyler
29th Sep 2020 13:49
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By Southwestbeancounter
29th Sep 2020 14:02

That's the ZOE app isn't it? I've been reporting daily on that one since March, too. My phone is too old to download the NHS one so that's decided it for me but I wasn't particularly keen to download it anyway for the same reasons as you. Also I haven't been to bars and restaurants or anywhere else except for essential shopping and work so I wasn't sure if walking past someone in the street who later tested positive would mean that I potentially had to self-isolate for 2 weeks? Someone said you had to be near someone for 10 minutes for it to count but I'm not so sure.

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By Wilson Philips
29th Sep 2020 14:05

Within 2m for 15 minutes. Otherwise it shouldn’t register.

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By Southwestbeancounter
29th Sep 2020 19:39

Thanks Wilson - it's 15 minutes is it, that's better as the ads I saw on TV showed people just walking down the street with their phones seemingly picking up connections from other app users as they walked by.

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By Wilson Philips
29th Sep 2020 19:57

That might have been the paranoid Welsh version ;-)

(Although I would not have been surprised had the Scottish version been equally over-sensitive.)

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By carnmores
29th Sep 2020 07:16

yes i have downloaded my electronic identity card

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By MJShone
29th Sep 2020 07:50

Yes - it's only been working since Thursday. I checked in to our local pub on Thursday (to wish the landlord, who's a friend, a happy birthday)...and Friday...and Saturday. Not been anywhere else to check into - so the NHS will start to worry about my alcohol consumption.

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By JazzySasha
29th Sep 2020 09:52

I haven't downloaded it and won't be doing so (for a number of reasons). I have been using the COVID symptom tracker since it started [https://covid.joinzoe.com/]

The app does not do what it's supposed to - PHE, NHS and ONS test results cannot be linked with the app (positive or negative results) so seems pretty pointless.

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By John Isabel
29th Sep 2020 12:34

Does your symptom tracker alert you to having been in close proximity to potential carriers?

What variety of reasons for not downloading it are you referring to?

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By WhichTyler
29th Sep 2020 13:50

The problem with tests not booked through the app was resolved the same day

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-nhs-tracing-app-problem-that-left...

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By accountantccole
29th Sep 2020 11:53

Downloaded the French one months ago. Bluetooth constantly on so it knows who I have been near. If they are tested positive, they tell the app and I would get a message. (At least that is the theory)
Given the number of times I click accept to cookies on things, I doubt there is any element of my life that isn't tracked already!

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By Lisa R
29th Sep 2020 11:55

The restaurant that we wanted to eat in on Sunday wouldn't let us in without checking in on the app so I felt quite pressured into downloading it!
It's not that I have an issue with it generally but would've liked to be able to find out a bit more about it first.
The fact that we don't get "checked out" until midnight does that mean if someone found to have covid arrives after we've gone, is there a possibility that we will still get notified to isolate? It's a bit harder to explain that to an app than to someone calling you from a manual contact list.
Also, it will be a while before they have everyone's test results from the various testing facilities so feels like they're just not working with complete information.

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By Wilson Philips
29th Sep 2020 12:26

Is it any different to a manual contact list though? In all the establishments that I've visited (not many) they have simply taken my name and phone number. So all they have is a list of people who were there at some point during the day.

If I get a message via the app, I doubt that I'll go so far as self-isolating but I might well book a test.

Why do they need results from testing facilities? Does it not work by simply logging all uploads by users that have tested positive?

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By JazzySasha
29th Sep 2020 13:27

Individuals have to upload their own results but can only do so if they've had a test from the "right" source (see above). An NHS test result, for example, can't be uploaded to the app.

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By Wilson Philips
29th Sep 2020 13:36

I see. It seems to work (or not) quite differently to the Scottish version. That doesn’t have all the features of the English one but seems to do what the main purpose is much better - to identify unknown contacts in unknown locations, eg on public transport.

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By Lisa R
29th Sep 2020 13:58

Yes JazzySasha is correct, it's not linked to the NHS which seems ridiculus considering the app is called NHS Covid-19! I think if you've had an NHS test then you have to wait for a code which you can then download to the app. This all takes time which means the information is likely to be out of date by a couple of days.
I have heard talk about Bluetooth so I don't know if that's working along side the app to figure out who's close by at the same time?
Need to check if my Bluetooth is even on!

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By WhichTyler
29th Sep 2020 13:51
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By John Stone
30th Sep 2020 10:38

Cafes etc are required to record your arrival time and, if possible, your departure time in order to minimise the numbers told to self isolate.

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By lionofludesch
30th Sep 2020 10:46

You can't leave on the app. You have to stay until midnight.

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By Wilson Philips
30th Sep 2020 11:30

I suppose that someone might be recording departure time "behind the scenes" - I've never noticed anyone doing it.

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By adam.arca
29th Sep 2020 12:51

I haven't downloaded the app because my iPhone is too old: bit surprised that this thread has got 17 replies and everyone presumably has the bang up-to-date model needed.

Not having the app is going to be a pain in the [***] for me as I'm a big non league football fan and these clubs are now all required to have the QR codes needed and to facilitate scanning in wherever possible. However, it's also stated in their guidance that they must have a back-up manual record for those of us who don't have the app. On that basis, I would imagine that the restaurant referenced above was probably going beyond what was intended. I think I might have been tempted to favour them with the big swerve.

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By John Isabel
29th Sep 2020 13:08

I dont think you need a 'bang up to date' phone. Im still using an old (well actually quite new, but released quite a long time ago) iPhone 8 - because i dont like the over-sized handsets which are the norm on newer models. I may get the new SE in due course as that's the same size i believe.

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By adam.arca
29th Sep 2020 13:23

Mine's an iPhone 5 so I think I'm bolloxed on the issue of downloading the T&T app and I'm not chucking away a perfectly adequate bit of kit just to get one.

Anything newer than about 10 years ago counts as "bang up-to-date" in my book.

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By WhichTyler
29th Sep 2020 13:53

You may also be b****xed on the issue of not getting security patches for that phone any more so maybe don't use it for work stuff/client data

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By adam.arca
29th Sep 2020 14:03

WhichTyler wrote:

You may also be b****xed on the issue of not getting security patches for that phone any more so maybe don't use it for work stuff/client data

Really? I didn't know that and I don't recall ever receiving any alerts about that either.

As it happens, though, I'm that old fashioned that I still don't have my emails pushed through to my phone and I certainly do nothing online with it other than browse football results. For me, it's literally just a phone that I can carry around.

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By Lisa R
29th Sep 2020 14:07

The friend that I was with doesn't even have a smartphone! I'm sure places will still have a manual check in available but I'd already let on by then that I had my phone with me. I tried to use the excuse that as it was a company phone I'd need to check with my boss that it was ok to install another app.
We walked on a bit but then decided we did want to eat there afterall so the app is now on my phone, at least it does make it easier than giving your details to each place you eat in. Just still not convinced it's up to the job just yet.

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By John Isabel
29th Sep 2020 13:09

I have downloaded it. I dont believe in aliens, nor dfo i worry about Boris tracking my every move - im sure he has far more important issues at hand (like trying to work out where the hell dominic is, even when he's supposed to be at home self isolating). Whilst i can be pretty selfish at times, im not so self centred that i'll avoid recommended measures just to feel important/make a stand.

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By CJaneH
29th Sep 2020 17:02

Down loaded to day but wonder if I should have used work postcode rather than home.

I have my office at my tennis/squash club so work and play there. Live by myself at home so amount of contact at home post code limited to supermarket shopping.

Which post code to use has not been discussed.

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By Wilson Philips
29th Sep 2020 17:07

As already mentioned the postcode is simply to confirm that you live in England and that you are therefore eligible to use the app. I live in Scotland but have also downloaded the English app, using my son's postcode, for use when I am south of the border.

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By John R
29th Sep 2020 17:14

I tried it at our local M & S restaurant where they displayed QR codes adjacent to the queue for entry. The app was not recognised. The check-in assistant said they have their own system whereby you open your camera app and as you aim at the QR code it takes you to a form where you have to fill in your name and address and number of diners. There was a long queue!

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By lionofludesch
30th Sep 2020 10:12

John R wrote:
There was a long queue!

Socially distanced ?

Queues are always going to be about four times as long as they used to be.

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By North East Accountant
02nd Oct 2020 13:40

It just might work better than the manual list.

Mate of mine was in the pub last month and whilst signing the list noticed there were 3 Elvis Priesleys, 2 Elton Johns and 1 Madonna in there!

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By Matrix
02nd Oct 2020 18:06

Thanks for the replies. I haven’t been anywhere yet so haven’t had to scan in!

We aren’t locked down here so I am busy picking up records from older clients while I still can (I have offered to pick up from outside but they quite like inviting me in).

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