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Just submitted a VAT return through HMRC portal for a client and everything seemed normal.

Then went to submit another one and new tick box appeared

:*I can confirm that I have checked that the calculations used to produce these figures are honest and accurate.*

Anyone else had this?

 

 

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By spidersong
04th Sep 2018 16:08

Yes - on all returns done in the last week or so

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By Jo Nokes
04th Sep 2018 16:24

I filed two returns yesterday, one had that extra box, one didn't

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By sally1964
05th Sep 2018 11:03

That is what confused me - one had the box and one did not but both had same period 31/07.

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By Matrix
04th Sep 2018 19:27

I filed with third party software today and did not have this box. Have not filed with HMRC in over a week.

What is an honest calculation?

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By SXGuy
04th Sep 2018 21:13

An accurate one.

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By SXGuy
04th Sep 2018 21:12

Yeah today

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By bernard michael
05th Sep 2018 10:13

Interesting.
What is the HMRC definition of "honest" ?

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By Tornado
05th Sep 2018 12:05

"What is the HMRC definition of "honest" ?"

That is a difficult one as they are so often dishonest themselves.

Take, for example, the big lie that 400,000 people would be in the MTD trail by Autumn 2017 and that other big whopper that MTD will cost business practically nothing to implement.

Perhaps we need HMRC to come up with what they consider to their definition of "Honest". I guess it will be different to ours.

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By Jane S-D
05th Sep 2018 11:53

Yes, I filed a few VAT returns yesterday - some had that box others didn't.

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By alan.rolfe
17th Sep 2018 15:55

HMRC Agents forum has discussed this and HMRC have posted the following message:

"The Business Area have confirmed that Agents completing the Return on behalf of clients should check the box and continue with the filing. The upfront honesty declaration carries no weight in law. The legal declaration at the end of the return, confirming the return is complete and correct, retains primacy in law. Completion of the upfront honesty declaration will not be taken into account for compliance purposes during the trial.
HMRC would therefore reaffirm that the legal declaration at the end of the Return continues to operate as the legal confirmation that the submission is complete and correct. No account is taken of the upfront honesty declaration if a return is found to contain errors, whether submitted by an agent or an unrepresented customer."

(https://online.hmrc.gov.uk/webchatprod/community/posts/list/2119.page)

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By atleastisoundknowledgable...
17th Sep 2018 16:38

So the point of it is .... ?

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By bernard michael
18th Sep 2018 09:19

In which case what is the point of it ?

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By Vic Woodhouse
07th Oct 2018 10:27

Still getting this on the odd VAT return.
Also a goofy error message on nil returns that the figures do not match; you can just ignore; someone has been messing about with the program.

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By Jo Nokes
07th Oct 2018 16:47

I got one yesterday saying boxes 3 and 4 were the same so check them. They were both zero!

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By lionofludesch
22nd Oct 2018 12:45

Actually, over the years, I've had two clients gormless enough to reenter output tax in the input tax box. Agree it may seem over the top when the entries are zero but it's not worth building it into the software as an exception.

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