VT Transaction+ sales/purchase orders

Is there any compatible software?

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TAS Books is ceasing support, so the one remaining client who uses it needs to change system. Normally I would recommend VT Transaction+, but it has not got an integrated sales/purchase order system. Does anyone know of an external sales/purchase order system that can feed directly into VT? The only systems I can find are only compatible with Sage, Xero, Quickbooks etc, and I would not recommend any of those applications to my client.

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By WinterDragon
19th Jan 2024 15:46

I'm intrigued by your aversion of the cloud-based systems like QuickBooks, Xero, etc.

As a prouder member of the zoomer generation, I look at VT and see an outdated product living on borrowed time. Not trying to criticize, I'm just generally curious.

I can understand if you wouldn't recommend these products to specific clients, we have a few traditional bookkeepers in their 70s and as much as I dislike Sage50, I wouldn't dare revolutionise their systems as I'd be pushing them straight off the cliff into retirement.

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By Truthsayer
20th Jan 2024 16:06

Cloud systems lack proper backup. Their fanboys and salesmen often say 'but they don't need backup'. Yes they do! I have many times seen clients wreck their accounts, necessitating a restore from before they messed up, and that is usually impossible with cloud systems. Also, all data may be lost if the subscription lapses.

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By cbp99
22nd Jan 2024 09:23

Apart from the question of speed, and the absence of a decent PL and SL in Xero, there is the cost advantage of VT.

A bookkeeping AND final accounts solution (with ixbrl) for the entire client base for less than the cost of a single 'standard' Xero subscription.

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By paulwakefield1
19th Jan 2024 19:37

Strange. I look at VT and see an old fashioned imterface which is very fast, efficient, flexible, easy to use even a pleasure to use. Did I mention fast?

I look at (and use) Xero and see a more modern interface with a better audit trail and the ability to attach documents, bank feed and other better things but which is slower, more cumbersome, has a hideous purchase and sales ledger and slow. Did I mention slow? For what it does, and doing it over the internet as well, it is impressivley fast but the delays are frustrating and build up over the day.

I'm probably jaundiced having just been doing 10 Xero based companies VAT returns and individual and group management accounts today.

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By WinterDragon
20th Jan 2024 01:10

Fair points you've raised, yes the loading times between screens or even between transactions can get frustrating. I've noticed QuickBooks improve this significantly over the last couple of years but nothing beats the speed of local software.

I am one of the suckers that has bought into automation and I would struggle to match the speed of this on Sage 50 unless there were only a very small number of transactions.

Again likely a generational thing that as a zoomer, I enjoy advising fellow zoomers running digital businesses so being able to integrate various apps to the bookkeeping software can greatly cut down the amount of manual work.

You are clearly not one of the purist ostriches though that outright refuse to use Xero et al, those are the types that really confuse me. Hope you managed to get through your VAT returns without too much grief!

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By paulwakefield1
20th Jan 2024 17:39

Integration isn't confined to online solution of course although they do tend to be slicker. I have one client running an old copy of Sage which has, from memory, 4 other systems reporting in. Some are fully automated, some need an intermediate step but with no manual input - all very MTD for VAT friendly :-) Some of which I wrote. Good fun.

Currently looking at fully automating some of the semi integrated ones.

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By Truthsayer
20th Jan 2024 16:10

'has a hideous purchase and sales ledger'

Indeed. I would go as far as to say it does not have a proper sales or purchase ledger at all. I hate Xero even more than I hate Sage. I have hated Sage for other reasons for over 30 years, long before cloud computing was a thing, and they have only marginally improved their product in that time.

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