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What does bank repayment pending mean? HMRC SA

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I filled out and sent off for my self assesment tax repayment on the 22/06/20 and I checked the status of it this morning to find it saying Date:Pending, Description: Bank Repayment Pending then Amount £5,241... Conveniently my car has broken during lockdown and I really could do with the money sooner rather than later.. A friend says once it reaches Bank Repayment Pending that means HMRC have accepted it and it's just a matter of when not if I will receive the money??? Has the "GLITCH" over the weekend likely to have affected it and does the fact that HMRC say we should receive any payments BY the 2nd July?? 

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By Wanderer
01st Jul 2020 13:32

Cleyland96 wrote:
What does bank repayment pending mean? HMRC SA

I filled out and sent off for my self assesment tax repayment on the 22/06/20 and I checked the status of it this morning to find it saying Date:Pending, Description: Bank Repayment Pending then Amount £5,241... Conveniently my car has broken during lockdown and I really could do with the money sooner rather than later.. A friend says once it reaches Bank Repayment Pending that means HMRC have accepted it and it's just a matter of when not if I will receive the money??? Has the "GLITCH" over the weekend likely to have affected it and does the fact that HMRC say we should receive any payments BY the 2nd July?? 

Thanks in advance

Pending often means it is subject to 'security checks'. Could be days, could be weeks, could be months.
Are you a CIS subcontractor by any chance?
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By Cleyland96
01st Jul 2020 13:45

No should that make any difference? It's like they just refuse to pay out but as you see mentioned in so many posts they're fast enough to move money around when it's them receiving!! Such a joke of an organization!

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By Wanderer
01st Jul 2020 13:52

Yes it can make a difference if you are CIS, but not relevant in this case.
Share your sentiments. Just be grateful it's not an employer's PAYE over-payment. Many of us take (literally) years to get these repaid and even then are not always successful.

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By Paul Crowley
01st Jul 2020 13:56

But they gave you three months SEISS six working days after you claimed.
Superb service.
They even contacted you and told you how to claim.

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By Paul Crowley
01st Jul 2020 13:49

Earlier this year HMRC that was still showing that message despite the monies being already in my client account.
I also think that the submissions I made earlier did not get the usual "checks" as they went straight though even when wildly out of sync with prior years.
But more than 14 days and it is probably caught up in system and will stay caught up in system until you chase it.
And when you chase it they get nowty and will tell you not to chase it again for eight weeks

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By Cleyland96
01st Jul 2020 14:00

I literally cannot deal with the arrogant agents who pick that phone up!!! There is an article in the news yesterday saying they had a f**k up and it's all rectified and anybody who applied when I did will have the money by the 2nd July but HMRC are not to be trusted and my mind automatically turns that by the 2nd to from the 2nd haha..

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By Wanderer
01st Jul 2020 14:14

Cleyland96 wrote:

I literally cannot deal with the arrogant agents who pick that phone up!!! There is an article in the news yesterday saying they had a f**k up and it's all rectified and anybody who applied when I did will have the money by the 2nd July but HMRC are not to be trusted and my mind automatically turns that by the 2nd to from the 2nd haha..

I know reports have varied however think that was for P800T repayments, not SA repayments.
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By Paul Crowley
01st Jul 2020 14:23

But it was in The Sun, Just read it myself

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By Cleyland96
01st Jul 2020 14:28

So looks like I just have to wait then. Why couldn't the turbo fail once the payment was issued haha it's just typical.

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By lionofludesch
01st Jul 2020 13:41

Thousands of threads on this.

The answer is still "be patient".

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By Cleyland96
01st Jul 2020 13:47

How true is it that if I was to call them 80% of the time they release it there and then?

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By Paul Crowley
01st Jul 2020 13:51

It is true if everyone who says that has waited eight weeks

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By lionofludesch
01st Jul 2020 13:58

Cleyland96 wrote:

How true is it that if I was to call them 80% of the time they release it there and then?

Do that then.

Why ask us ?

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By Red Leader
02nd Jul 2020 12:46

It's actually 82%.

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By Paul D Utherone
02nd Jul 2020 09:58

It's a large refund, so may have been flagged for a security review - certainly would have been in the old pre computer / local district office days. That leaves you with the other answers of patience, and anything between a few days and a couple of months.

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By Cleyland96
02nd Jul 2020 12:20

My friend got one paid in Tuesday and that amount was 11k so is there a change that may not have been security checked whilst mine has? Surley the higher amount would take longer to go through the process in theory? I'm really tempted to call them but don't want any more flags to come up and delay it any more than it already has been. Do HMRC count a Saturday as a working day if not then I've only been waiting 8 since it was even filed but as I say my friend filed the 11k around about the same time give or take a few days or so.

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By lionofludesch
02nd Jul 2020 12:40

Dunno. You could be right.

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By Hazel Accounts
02nd Jul 2020 12:52

Security checks won't just be on the amount but could either be because of certain entries made (no idea which) or just random.

HMRC always used to say (pre covid) they aim to refund within 2 weeks but don't contact them until after 4 weeks - I'm sure those time scales won't have reduced at the moment! Think you'll just have to be patient for now.

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By Paul D Utherone
02nd Jul 2020 23:32

The security checks should be random, but will probably tend towards larger claims. Also, if the refund arises on an amended return, this seems to set a flag & slow things down. Maybe your friend was just lucky.

A few years back 'HMRC security checks' were a death knell for repayment claims that disappeared into that black hole for months at a time. Nowadays this doesn't seem to happen.

I had a claim for a client that sat at 'Repayment Pending' for a little over a week, then just cleared through, so really...who knows is the best most of us can say. We can all probably quote at least one horror story.

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By Cleyland96
02nd Jul 2020 20:19

They're always really slow in my experience so I assume covid hasn't helped so I'm going to give it until next Friday before calling. At least that way I can argue that I've waited at least a little while.

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By lionofludesch
02nd Jul 2020 17:54

No smoke without fire.

There'll be a reason why this money isn't being repaid.

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By Cleyland96
02nd Jul 2020 20:23

They have every detail that they need. What more can they want that takes this amount of time? They have my number if they need anything that may be needed! My only theory is HMRC and the government in general like to hold on to our money for as long as legally possible.

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By lionofludesch
02nd Jul 2020 20:30

Maybe they have their suspicions.

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By Cleyland96
03rd Jul 2020 00:13

Suspicions of what everything is as it should be? Surely they would contact me with any queries.

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By lionofludesch
03rd Jul 2020 07:23

Cleyland96 wrote:

Suspicions of what everything is as it should be?

How would I know ?

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By Paul Crowley
02nd Jul 2020 21:04

Did you attach PDF copies of all your invoices?

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By SXGuy
03rd Jul 2020 06:50

If there was a laugh emoji I'd use it.

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By Matrix
03rd Jul 2020 08:23

Nothing to add except if the OP or any unrepresented taxpayers with the same issue don’t like dealing with HMRC directly then engage a tax agent to do so on your behalf.

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