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What is the process if signed-up for MTD too early

Annual and other VAT clients who may have signed up for MTD too early left in limbo.

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I have a client who does his own annual VAT returns, so no HMRC functionality to deal with it until October. However, bombarded by 'get ready' messages, he managed to miss the 'don't sign up too early' messages and signed up for his year-ended March 2019 VAT return.

He seems to be stuck in limbo (as per the warnings). Is there a way of unsticking him and getting the return submitted and the payments on account restarted? HMRC Digital believe 'another business area' will be sorting these out but are unable to provide a time frame.

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By nodrogbir
24th Jul 2019 11:39

Has to deregister and re-register to get out of MTD , HMRC told me this is an email.

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By johnhemming
24th Jul 2019 11:47

A) bridging for mtd is often free so he might as well do it
B) the planned date for opt out is August (2019 not sure when in August)

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By nodrogbir
24th Jul 2019 12:17

John are you saying that a date is planned to opt out of MTD ? If so I am puzzled as just last week HMRC emailed and stated clearly you could never Opt out. WIth thanks.

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By johnhemming
24th Jul 2019 13:56

There was something in the agents update which said there would be
a) A facility to opt out from MTD in August
b) A function to submit to the new HMRC systems without using the API.
And both would be available next month some time.

The timing link is probably relevant.

This probably provides a complete solution for your client, but so would using MTD software.

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By nodrogbir
24th Jul 2019 14:28

Well done you seem to be ahead of HMRC !

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By johnhemming
24th Jul 2019 15:08

Sorry I mistyped. I should have said the developers update not the agents update.

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By nodrogbir
24th Jul 2019 15:43

I thought so - just looked at the last update for agents but I quote from HMRC MTD email to me "there is no way out of the MTD system once enrolled unless you de-register for VAT"

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By johnhemming
24th Jul 2019 16:04

Today, however, that is true.

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By HeatherSimpson
24th Jul 2019 19:08

Thanks all. Yes, the client seems to facing de-registration from and re-registration for VAT but is waiting for contact from the HMRC 'other business area'. He is on QuickBooks Online, so could submit MTD but HMRC can't receive annual returns MTD yet. I assume that it is the same for bridging software.

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By johnhemming
24th Jul 2019 20:05

Sorry I hadn't spotted that it was the ending March 2019 period that he had joined for rather than the current one.

If you contact me directly I will see if I can find a route around degistering and re-registering. (email [email protected])

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By HeatherSimpson
25th Jul 2019 13:22

Thanks John,

Very early annual MTD VAT return safely submitted via vat.direct with your help.

Everyone else,

QBO did not seem to be ready with no MTD signs showing but HMRC was unexpectedly able to accept the figures via the vat.direct bridging software.

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