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I have never posted here before, but I am serviced by accountants in three different countries, and I am thrilled with the results.

Every one of them has been fantastic. They go out of their way to help, act professionally and have saved me thousands. Thank you :-)

Long story short, I really appreciate what you guys do and want to alleviate your lives in the same way you do for me and my software company.

After reading some threads here, it is clear, the software you use isn't the best and the government keeps leaning on you to do the work they should be doing.

I want to alleviate as much pain for you as possible. I am a software developer, so my solution would likely utilize that skill set, but I am open to other methods. What I really want to know is what keeps you up at night (if anything)? What would you like solved where there are no good solutions at the moment?

If I am able to solve your problem, I would charge, but in a way that would be profitable to you as well (obviously).

Also selling my time for money, I appreciate that your time is valuable and would be willing to pay for 30 minutes to an hour of your time at your rate for a chat via Zoom or other video software for you to express your challenges in running your practice.

Please don't hesitate to reach out at contact...at...jsdevtom...dot...com.

 

Thank you,

Tom

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By David Ex
22nd Aug 2021 20:42

jsdevtom wrote:

I am serviced by accountants in three different countries, and I am thrilled with the results.

That’s definitely too much information.

I’m sure if you want to pay to advertise on the site rather than post spam, the site owner will be happy to discuss terms.

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By jsdevtom
22nd Aug 2021 20:51

Hello David,

You are right, this could be considered advertisement and if the site owner would also consider it such, then I will happily discuss that with them.

Personally, I do not consider it an advertisement, as I am looking to _pay_ accountants for their time rather than sell anything. I most certainly wouldn't consider it spam. Simply looking to reduce the level of pain in the industry, and at this stage, pay people to do so.

Thank you for your engagement, though,

Tom

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By Leywood
22nd Aug 2021 22:02

Spammers never consider their spam is actually spam.

So the site owners will decide whether or not it is spam or not.

As will the members who view ‘Any Answers’.

Surely you should have approached the site owners before posting.

Think you will find this question has been asked before by a developer and didn’t go down very well with members, if I recall correctly.

If you have read the site as you say you have, then I think it’s abundantly clear about the biggest issue facing most Accountants at the moment, to the point there was an informal poll about it.

I won’t take up the opportunity of a zoom call as, frankly, you cannot afford me.

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By jsdevtom
22nd Aug 2021 22:17

If a client posted here and looked for an accountant, would you consider that spam? I am literally offering to pay for your time in the same way. If you are more expensive than 150 per hour, then thank you for your time. Unfortunately, you are right, I cannot afford you.

I am not spamming, simply looking to pay for your time to listen to your challenges with your business so that I have a chance of helping accountants and thus make a business for myself in return.

Nothing in this world can be improved without listening to people. Your time is valuable. Hence, I want to pay you for it. That's it.

Thank you for your advice, I will continue reading the site to gain insight.

Tom

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By DJKL
23rd Aug 2021 12:09

Catch for accountants is if you professionally engage them then they likely need to go through all the MLR protocols with your company setting you up as a client which if only a 1 hour engagement paying £150 is likely just not worth their while.

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By jsdevtom
23rd Aug 2021 22:01

Thank you for pointing this out, DJKL. I didn't realise this. They wouldn't be giving me accounting advice, so I'm not certain that it would be necessary. Good point though, thank you.

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By Leywood
22nd Aug 2021 22:03

Duplicate

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By Leywood
22nd Aug 2021 20:44

How much?

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By jsdevtom
22nd Aug 2021 20:59

As stated in my post, your hourly rate (within reason). At this stage at my career, I unfortunately couldn't afford the higher prices, for example £500/hour. This isn't a reflection on my judgement of your value, but rather simply the reflection of my economical reality at the moment. I normally pay £100-150/hour for accountant services. Payment would be made from my limited company as a normal consultancy hour would.

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By Thomas654654
22nd Aug 2021 21:18

I think accountants are well covered for software. If you were to release say bookkeeping software, payroll, accounts production or tax software it would just be another name in a long list.

Besides that there are plenty of tools on the market which helps us with our job and integrates with our popular products. For example, timesheets, to do lists, HR, project management etc. etc.

The problem isn't lack of software, it's the risk of Iris buying it up and ruining it.

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By jsdevtom
22nd Aug 2021 21:51

Thank you for the information, Thomas!

I was aware that there are already lots of solutions for the day-to-day operations. It’s interesting that Iris is buying up software and ruining it. I didn't know that. Thank you.

But leaving out the word software for a moment, what areas are you struggling with? For example, would you like more clients? Or perhaps better clients that pay on time etc? I am looking to "really" help. Not just offer a copycat product.

Again, if at anytime you want to be paid for your time, just say.

Thanks again,
Tom

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By stepurhan
23rd Aug 2021 08:27

What keeps me up at night is software developers trying to convince me that they can solve all my problems. That goes double when they rubbish existing programs in making those claims.

But let us give you a fair shake. If you can write a program that makes Making Tax Digital for Income Tax go away, I'm sure you'll have accountants beating a path to your door. Note, that is makes it go away entirely, not claims to make it easier to comply with it.

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By jsdevtom
23rd Aug 2021 09:47

Software developers being able to solve all accounts' problems is something I also don't consider ever possible. Definitely, I am not claiming that. It also saddens me when software companies rubbish existing solutions that work.

Making Tax Digital seems like the bane of accountants' life. As I am sure you are aware, there was already a petition about stopping it, but unfortunately failed: https://petition.parliament.uk/archived/petitions/167738.

I have seen that the main problems with MTD are that it is buggy and doesn't consider certain cases. Especially small businesses that aren't "digital" yet. I will read this forum more thoroughly to see if there is a way I can help. There must be something. Not everything requires a company; I could imagine, for example, another petition that broadens the conditions for exemption of MTD.

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By stepurhan
23rd Aug 2021 13:29

jsdevtom wrote:

Software developers being able to solve all accounts' problems is something I also don't consider ever possible. Definitely, I am not claiming that. It also saddens me when software companies rubbish existing solutions that work.


From your opening post
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After reading some threads here, it is clear, the software you use isn't the best.......I want to alleviate as much pain for you as possible. I am a software developer,

Sure you haven't named any specific program. This is still rubbishing other software and claiming you can solve the problems they can't.
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I have seen that the main problems with MTD are that it is buggy and doesn't consider certain cases.

If that is what you think is the main problem, you really don't understand the issue. This is reinforced by the following sentence
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Especially small businesses that aren't "digital" yet.
Why "yet"?

You are making the same false assumption the government is in pushing this forward. That all businesses should be keeping records digitally and will benefit from doing so.

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Not everything requires a company;

True, but I'm really struggling to see the relevance to this discussion.
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I could imagine, for example, another petition that broadens the conditions for exemption of MTD.

What is needed is for this ill-considered plan to not be compulsory at all. Broadening exemptions is like putting a plaster on a gaping wound.

That is even assuming another petition won't just be ignored like all the previous petitions.

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By jsdevtom
23rd Aug 2021 22:17

> This is still rubbishing other software and claiming you can solve the problems they can't

It isn't. This may not need to be something that they _can't_ do, but could well be something they actively _choose_ not to do due to their targeted market segment, for example. They may not know how to do it cost effectively etc.

> Why "yet"?

Just a poorly chosen word. Thank you for highlighting this, though.

> True, but I'm really struggling to see the relevance to this discussion.

I am trying to help accountants. If there is something I could do that my skills would allow me to do without too much cost, I may be able to help and not need a company to do so (like creating, marketing and advertising a petition).

> What is needed is for this ill-considered plan to not be compulsory at all. Broadening exemptions is like putting a plaster on a gaping wound.
That is even assuming another petition won't just be ignored like all the previous petitions.

I agree, but short of legal action, lobbying the government, creating a new party or worse, I don't see how to make it non-compulsory or completely abolish it at this stage. If you have any ideas, I would love to hear them.

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By stepurhan
24th Aug 2021 08:56

jsdevtom wrote:
It isn't. This may not need to be something that they _can't_ do, but could well be something they actively _choose_ not to do due to their targeted market segment, for example. They may not know how to do it cost effectively etc.

But you will know how to do it cost effectively? If you aren't rubbishing other software, why mention other software at all?
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If you have any ideas, I would love to hear them.


This thread is called "What painful problem(s) is your practice facing?" with the subheading "I want to help you solve them"

I have told you one of the most painful problems many practices face at the moment. I didn't really expect you to come up with a solution, but it was an opportunity to show your ability to think about a problem. If you had come up with interesting ideas of your own, that could have made it worth following up with you on other matters.

Instead you have failed to grasp why MTD is considered a pain by most accountants. You would not have needed to go outside this site to understand it properly. Also your only idea is another petition, an idea you know has already failed. Not exactly out of the box thinking is it.

Now you are asking me to provide the solution myself. This does not give me a good impression of your problem-solving skills, so I will not be pursuing your problem-solving offer.

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By Leywood
24th Aug 2021 09:16

[quote=stepurhan] ''Now you are asking me to provide the solution myself.''

Ah but you could get paid £150 for it.

Whilst the OP then takes the idea and monetises it.

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By jsdevtom
25th Aug 2021 18:39

Exactly, although I'm not convinced that I could bear being on a phone call with stepurhan for an hour. Let alone paying him £150 for the privilege.

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By jsdevtom
25th Aug 2021 18:36

> But you will know how to do it cost effectively?

It depends, if I could solve it using my specialities, there is a good chance, yes.

> If you aren't rubbishing other software, why mention other software at all?

Because I have seen accountants complain about it in other threads...

> If you had come up with interesting ideas of your own

You literally asked me to make MTD "go away entirely". If one goes against this regulation in any other way, it would be in direct violation of it. You ask for the impossible and then expect a half decent solution. Perhaps a new petition could do a lot better with sufficient marketing and advertisement.

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By stepurhan
26th Aug 2021 08:26

jsdevtom wrote:

You literally asked me to make MTD "go away entirely". If one goes against this regulation in any other way, it would be in direct violation of it. You ask for the impossible and then expect a half decent solution. Perhaps a new petition could do a lot better with sufficient marketing and advertisement.

My original request to make MTD go away entirely was partly a joke, though it is undoubtedly the most painful thing most practices face at the moment.

You chose to engage with it regardless, but you just proved yourself a lacklustre problem solver. You did no research (start here, an article on this very site, if you want some understanding of how accountants feel about MTD https://www.accountingweb.co.uk/tax/hmrc-policy/delay-mtd-itsa-to-preser...) and thus failed to grasp the problem. You offered, and are still offering the lacklustre solution of a petition. I have seen many petitions reach debate levels of votes with the subsequent debate just paying lip service to the issue. Marketing and advertisement is not going to make a petition alone more effective.

This is why I would not want to spend time on the phone with you either, even if you paid. Taking at face value that you do have good programming skills, they are useless if you don't understand accounting at all. A bit of basic research would do wonders, and simply reading articles on this site and this forum would give you a start. Otherwise both you and anyone that takes you up on this offer will be wasting their time on a call. They are going to take time getting you to understand fundamentals and you are not going to end up understanding issues enough to provide proper solutions.

Perhaps you should start by talking to your three accountants about the problems they face. You already have a relationship with them and there are some issues that are universal, despite different tax laws in individual countries.

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By stepurhan
26th Aug 2021 08:31

jsdevtom wrote:

> But you will know how to do it cost effectively?

It depends, if I could solve it using my specialities, there is a good chance, yes.

> If you aren't rubbishing other software, why mention other software at all?


As an aside, I don't have a lot of faith in a coder who cannot work out how to use the quote tags correctly, even though the reply function literally provides an example of their correct use.
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By bernard michael
23rd Aug 2021 09:50

In answer to your question it's people wasting my time

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By jsdevtom
23rd Aug 2021 11:54

As in clients not paying? Who is wasting your time?

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By Red Leader
23rd Aug 2021 12:52

Oh the irony!

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By alialdabawi
23rd Aug 2021 10:13

The bulldozing through of MTD. Solve it. Though you may need to change profession to become a voodoo artist.

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By jsdevtom
23rd Aug 2021 11:55

Thank you for your response. I'll see what I can do

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By Paul D Utherone
23rd Aug 2021 13:39

Try having a talk to HMRC and sort out their myriad antiquated systems to one that actually works

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By jsdevtom
23rd Aug 2021 22:19

This may be the best recommendation yet. One where I could truly make a difference. Thank you.

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By Leywood
24th Aug 2021 09:16

jsdevtom wrote:

This may be the best recommendation yet. One where I could truly make a difference. Thank you.

At least you have a sense of humour.

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By jsdevtom
25th Aug 2021 18:41

I provide software and its architecture. Including refactoring large, old code bases for organisations large and small. Working for them or selling my services to them could genuinely be the way I could help the most.

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By petersaxton
25th Aug 2021 22:32

If you need accountants to tell you what problems they have then you dont have the knowledge to help them. There's plenty of accountants that have an understanding of the accounting market who can design and code software.

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By jsdevtom
25th Aug 2021 23:08

You're right. Perhaps I should gain domain knowledge by programming for an accounting company first. I had no idea that "There's plenty of accountants ... who can design and code software". It has taken me many years to become proficient to a point where I would be comfortable delivering a reliable software product to a paying customer. I wonder how good these coding accountants are and how they've learned.

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By stepurhan
26th Aug 2021 08:27

jsdevtom wrote:
I wonder how good these coding accountants are and how they've learned.


An accountant that cannot code well and a coder who does not understand accountancy will be equally bad at solving problems with IT.
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By Tax Dragon
26th Aug 2021 10:06

jsdevtom wrote:

What painful problem(s) is your practice facing?

Stupid clients (thanks Peter).

jsdevtom wrote:

I want to help you solve them

OMG what are you going to do??!

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