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We currently use Iris payemaster and have for at least 15 years. With costs soaring to over £1400 for 20 companies or £1600 to use kashflow, we have been recommended moneysoft for 295 for unlimited everything . However today at Accountex we were quite taken with Brightpay for £779 plus Vat. For unlimited companies. Can anyone please recommend or offer a comparison between the two. Thank you

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By tom123
10th May 2017 21:16

Both Moneysoft and Brightpay have enthusiastic supporters on here.

I have used MS, but not the other one.

Stuck at present with an employer who uses Sage - but I am used to that, as it happens. Would never choose it if starting from scratch though.

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By [email protected]all
11th May 2017 12:34

Thank you so much for your reply :-)

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By jcace
10th May 2017 21:53

I have only used MS sparingly via one client, but I have been using BrightPay for a couple of years now. I find it to fulfil all my needs easily, cost effectively and intuitively - it does the Auto Enrolment thinking for me, warning when tasks are required as you run through your normal payroll (i.e. not as an add-on). It also deals with CIS within the same program, so can produce one figure for what to pay to HMRC. I would recommend it to anyone. And the bureau version (unlimited employers) for 2017/18 only costs £229 + VAT

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By [email protected]
11th May 2017 12:37

Thanks for your reply , very much appreciated - I feel very swayed towards Brightbooks - but I am at a loss how they have quoted both my and I different prices - will need the conversation with them I think!

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By NLB
10th May 2017 23:24

2nd shout for brightpay but watch out for the functionality gap between mac and pc versions. Store the data files in Dropbox or cloud storage and you are away.

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By [email protected]
11th May 2017 12:38

Thank you! yes I am being pulled towards them!

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By In a Daze
10th May 2017 23:50

I am a big fan of Bright Pay. It deals with all my clients needs. And as mentioned makes auto enrollment a breeze.

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By [email protected]
11th May 2017 12:51

Thank you :-)

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By NH
11th May 2017 06:21

wondering why BP quoted you so much, we pay £229 and it does everything for unlimited number of clients, couldn't speak more highly of it, we moved from PAYE Master when the prices starting going silly.

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By SpreadsheetUser
11th May 2017 08:14

It will be for the Connect cloud service too as that costs extra and dependent on number of clients

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By [email protected]
11th May 2017 12:39

Thank you!!

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By [email protected]
11th May 2017 12:39

Thank you!!

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By SpreadsheetUser
11th May 2017 07:07

Brightpay is great, especially for auto enrolment. I like how it continually assesses the employees and flags up warnings. Moneysoft Payroll Manager involves you having to manually assess each time

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By [email protected]
11th May 2017 12:41

Thanks - this answers my next question!

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By mbee1
11th May 2017 08:27

I evaluated the free Brightpay trial during February and March this year having had my renewal for £1200 for Iris Bureau. I find it far more user friendly than iris, particularly the AE functions and can highly recommend it.

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By [email protected]
11th May 2017 12:42

I'm Swayed!! Thanks!

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By Glenn Martin
11th May 2017 08:27

Brightpay is brilliant for money and I certainly wouldn't be paying £1500 for payroll software.

I am surprised anyone still uses Sage and Iris if that's what it costs.

Not sure on the price you have been given as it's £229 unless they added the £50 per company for the additional cloud link, but that would be optional and could be re charged on a per client basis.

Still a good saving though.

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By [email protected]
11th May 2017 12:47

thank you - yes i'm fed up of being ripped off by Iris tbf.. Their sister company Keytime quoted me £900.00 - how can the price vary so much between two companies!!

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By DMGbus
11th May 2017 08:36

I have used both Brightpay and Moneysoft (plus three other payroll softwares).
Based on my experience:
1. Avoid Moneysoft due to variable quality of support
2. Brightpay has a more modern and easier to navigate user interface

I am happy to pay the extra to use Brightpay as compared to Moneysoft.

The worst (and most expensive software) that I have ever used is Pegasus Opera - absolute garbage in terms of complexity and hidden / complicated routines.

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By landscaper
11th May 2017 09:25

Moneysoft all the way - so good I have never needed support so cannot comment on the quality!
Have used Sage in the past and other bespoke packages but nothing comes near MS in my opinion for ease, cost and the sheer delight of something that works so beautifully - it's just impossible to understand why the others don't!

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By [email protected]
11th May 2017 12:49

Thankyou!!! this is very helpful

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By Kevin Kavanagh
11th May 2017 09:49

Both Moneysoft and Brightway work well, and are way cheaper than the big name alternatives, none of which seem to offer anything better for the increased cost.

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By anthonystorey
11th May 2017 10:29

I recently filed a 2017-18 final declaration inadvertently instead of the one for 2016-17 and I couldn't work out how to undo it. I emailed for help to Moneysoft and they emailed the fix back to me in 14 minutes. In my book that's good service.

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By Ashlea
11th May 2017 10:31

I have used Moneysoft for 5 years and it is brilliant.
PAYE and CIS all in one, giving one PAYE figure to pay and plenty of reports.
They have great support and are continuously updating the software to accommodate the pensions uploads.

The price is great too!! I have no complaints.

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By Euan MacLennan
11th May 2017 11:50

" we have been recommended moneysoft for 295 for unlimited everything"

Eh? The price of Moneysoft's bureau version for unlimited companies is £195 (+ VAT).

I understand that BrightPay automatically assesses the requirement to auto-enrol new members. With Moneysoft, you have to manually (one click) run a report. If you can get the full payroll function for £195 (and many think that Moneysoft does payroll better than BrightPay), do you really think it worthwhile to pay an additional £584 a year for BrightPay's slicker assessment of auto-enrolment?

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By NH
11th May 2017 12:08

BP is £229
Moneysoft £195

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By [email protected]
11th May 2017 12:57

NO I don't which is why I have asked for people's opinions - It's ok hearing it from the guys selling the product but I wanted reviews from the consumer. Also, the price I was quoted was very different to my colleague which is why I| now need to go back to Brightpay and find out why .

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By ScribbleD
11th May 2017 15:31

I decided to move to BrightPay last year after looking at quite a few payroll packages on the market. I paid £229 for BrightPay which includes auto enrolment, CIS and free support and unlimited everything. There is an option to have BrightPay Connect for some or all of my clients but this is definitely optional.
In terms of functionality, I couldn't fault the software. It is very easy to use and on the odd occasion I've called support, I found them to be very knowledgeable and helpful. Give them a call to clarify the quote.

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By [email protected]
11th May 2017 16:09

Thank you so much - yes my colleague seems to think it's the cloud connect bit that has pushed the price up - Some of our clients (as much as I love them all and I do not wish to sound derogatory) are living in the dinosaur age and do not like the digital payslips so if for these clients we do not have to have this option it would be great. Iris TOLD us last year that we HAVE to have the feature because it links in with AE. Think they saw me coming didn't they!!

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By NYB
15th May 2017 12:58

Brightpay is brilliant. Have used it for years as a bureau. Just recently I recommended it to someone who had little knowledge of running a payroll and they had no trouble using it. It carries out everything very seamlessly right through to auto enrolment

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By Slim Freddie
15th May 2017 13:23

Switched to Brightpay from IRIS (due to crazy price increases and lack of any care for customers) and haven’t looked back. It is so easy to use and the auto enrolment section is actually automated instead of a glorified manual system. I've looked at the cloud option too and will start to use it for a few clients. Like you say, it’s not for all clients as some are living in the dark ages.

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By chewmac
15th May 2017 14:05

Another vote for BrightPay for lots of the reasons already stated. I was attracted by their handling of AE and it hasn't disappointed. As one member said - it takes the thinking out of AE - it literally flags any AE item that needs attending to. Otherwise - no flags, no changes and on with payroll processing.

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By [email protected]
15th May 2017 15:26

Thank you...i have bitten the bullet and as recommended purchased bright pay :-)

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